I found the xbox one reveal a REAL turn off so ..........

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  1. Posts : 6,668
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       #21

    The problem is all these companies keep trying ridiculous anti piracy methods that barely slow down the pirates (if at all) and cause legitimate consumers problems. I would be far more willing to deal with crazy DRM measures if they actually worked at all, but they don't.

    Now they want to stack targeted advertising and impulse buying to their list on top of the DRM problem they refuse to address at all. Basically I'm down to only gaming on pc. I actually got an Xbox controller for it so ports would play more smoothly. I'm also pretty much exclusively on steam now as it's been the only DRM that seems to actually function without interfering with my game experience.

    The Steam box may wind up taking some market points against the odds because of how all this is playing out.
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  2. Posts : 1,962
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       #22

    Maguscreed said:
    The problem is all these companies keep trying ridiculous anti piracy methods that barely slow down the pirates (if at all) and cause legitimate consumers problems. I would be far more willing to deal with crazy DRM measures if they actually worked at all, but they don't.
    Games get pirated even a couple or few days the game is even released so I doubt very much their DRMs are working, all they do is hinder and annoy the crap out of the paying customer. Even Console games are pirated now.

    Now, being said that, just because they have paid Millions of Dollars to a Lobbyist to call what they sell Legal does not mean it is. I don't consider an unoptimized, shoddy and badly coded ported to PC game legal at all... what happened to buying a finished product?

    My take on this... if they think they can get away with the sale of used games, watch how many more games get pirated now.
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  3. Posts : 16,131
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       #23

    There is another aspect to DRM.

    It may mean you have to pay again to use the game on another machine/platform, even if you already bought it. Maybe that is the real trick they are up to.
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  4. Posts : 491
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       #24

    I thought that the PS3 was free of pirated games but it appears this is not the case.
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  5. Posts : 6,668
    Windows 7 x64
       #25

    The thing is the pirates are composed of several generations of guys/girls that have been doing this their entire adult lives and maybe longer. The only way to ever slow them down is via cloud computing. Which I also think is a really big mistake, everyone is getting caught up in it without considering the long term effects of it. The thing is no matter how fancy the drm is, as long as the have access to the application they'll eventually hack it. Even the most stringent of DRM measures right now have slowed them down by a week at best. Sometimes pirated copies are available before games even release.

    I purchase a lot of games on steam and apps from various places all over the net. DRM or lack thereof was never a concern until the last 6 or 7 years, when it actually started interfering with my experience.

    Cloud computing is a trap, warns GNU founder | Technology | guardian.co.uk
    That article kind of touches on the concerns I have in the area of cloud computing.
    ...and with adobe moving photoshop to a cloud based subscription only service a lot of other companies will likely start trying to follow suit.

    What you see on pc is usually test grounds for what you will see later in the smaller more portable/dedicated devices. So it's not two different subjects either.
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  6. Posts : 12,364
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       #26

    I hear all the against arguments and I agree.

    Xbox was awesome, the 360 had a money grab taint. This thing is an acknowledged cash cow.




    However there is one compelling for argument - Forza. One of the rare games that get better with each release.
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  7. Posts : 6,668
    Windows 7 x64
       #27

    I've actually taken to playing racing games on my pc with a 360 controller (pretty much the only thing I use it for) Grid 2 is actually a really good racing game, depending on difficulty and settings it can either be a arcade style racing game, or a very demanding sim. The forza games are good but it's getting to where there are equally good games available on steam. The only downside is the need for a controller, mouse and keyboard just don't work for real racing games, you have to have more control over acceleration level and turning than the keyboard really allows.
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  8. Posts : 12,364
    8 Pro x64
       #28

    I use my fanatec wheel for racing and the amount of PC titles that are great with a wheel are increasing.

    If Forza dropped it's exclusivity I would not consider a X1.
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  9. Posts : 4,517
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
       #29

    Playstation4 Pre-Order
    PS4 available for Pre-Order @ $399.


    So, they reveal what the hardware looks like today. Announce the price (cheaper than Xbox One)
    And then said this:



    I think they are trying for a KO on the Xbox.

    Sold me. I reserved mine already.


    Oh, and then this.. OUCH!!
    Last edited by Wishmaster; 11 Jun 2013 at 00:04.
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  10. Posts : 491
    Windows 7
       #30

    How does Steam which is cloud based but allows you to download games to you PC affect the quality of the experience, IMO it makes it better as you have a central hub and you can re download later.
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