I found the xbox one reveal a REAL turn off so ..........

The only thing steam does on cloud is save games, and even then not for every title.
Did you even read the article?
You are mistaking digital download for cloud computing, they are not the same thing.

BomberAF said:

Maguscreed said:

The only thing steam does on cloud is save games, and even then not for every title.
Did you even read the article?
You are mistaking digital download for cloud computing, they are not the same thing.

So when you say cloud gaming it means that the actual software is saved in the cloud and never downloads to your device?

I do understand that steam isn't the only way to buy games, but doesn't Steam make their games secure as you need to be connected to the web. While I understand this does nothing if you can get them on other mediums.

Just to go slightly off topic how many of the top games are not available from Steam and what is you personal opinion of Steam and why?

I have no issue with steam, steam is not cloud computing as I said before.
I have a ridiculous number of games on steam and it's a great system.
That said they still actually give me the software/games I purchase and just offer a central download point to do so.
What we are starting to see the beginnings of now not with steam but with other things, is where they don't actually even give you the software.
The idea is that you can NOT purchase it. It must basically be rented as a service until the end of time once this happens. This idea, combined with microtransactions and impulse buys, is basically meant to just plain nickle and dime you do death over time.
I think it's dishonest and I don't see any benefit had to any end user because of it.

Maguscreed said:

BomberAF said:

Maguscreed said:

The only thing steam does on cloud is save games, and even then not for every title.
Did you even read the article?
You are mistaking digital download for cloud computing, they are not the same thing.

So when you say cloud gaming it means that the actual software is saved in the cloud and never downloads to your device?

I do understand that steam isn't the only way to buy games, but doesn't Steam make their games secure as you need to be connected to the web. While I understand this does nothing if you can get them on other mediums.

Just to go slightly off topic how many of the top games are not available from Steam and what is you personal opinion of Steam and why?

I have no issue with steam, steam is not cloud computing as I said before.
I have a ridiculous number of games on steam and it's a great system.
That said they still actually give me the software/games I purchase and just offer a central download point to do so.
What we are starting to see the beginnings of now not with steam but with other things, is where they don't actually even give you the software.
The idea is that you can NOT purchase it. It must basically be rented as a service until the end of time once this happens. This idea, combined with microtransactions and impulse buys, is basically meant to just plain nickle and dime you do death over time.
I think it's dishonest and I don't see any benefit had to any end user because of it.

So you mean games like World of Tanks, were they say free to play but you have to pay for items in the game like gold to convert experience etc.

BomberAF said:

So you mean games like World of Tanks, were they say free to play but you have to pay for items in the game like gold to convert experience etc.

That is a microtransaction yes. Many games now pop up a little alert to purchase right at the exact moment you need it as well, which is what I mean by impulse buying. Once they have your CC info and all, all you have to do is click a little yes button, impulse buys are drastically more likely to happen that way and they know this.

The cloud is only just now really starting to concern me on the heels of adobe's announcement concerning the next photoshop, which will only be available under a contract monthly subscription and you will not be able to purchase it. In fact photoshop should be disappearing from what shelves it remains on in the next couple of months here.

Sony seems like it's going to do good. 100$ cheaper then the new xbox, only 50$ more then the Nintendos wiiu. No restriction to having to be connected to the internet also.

PS4 in Australia = AUS$549

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Hi guys , now more info has come out about the PS4 ( I know I started the thread about the xone but hey-ho ) I must say it gives me a little hope for the future of console gaming , it seems Sony are actually making a 'games console' not a ..... well what-ever the xbox one is supposed to be because it sure isn't what I'd call a games console it's nearly every thing but. Sony are allowing used games sales and you don't need an internet connection to use the console which is great news for consumers, I think anyway.
I still want to get a gaming rig but I need to get some more penny's saved up first but this thread has helped me out in learning about what's important in a gaming rig , so thanks guys .
When I do get a gaming PC I'm looking forward to using Steam because it looks like when the Steam sales are on there are some good deals to be had.