Fallout 3 on Windows 7.

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  1. Posts : 23
    Vista 32 SP1 and W7 7201 x64
       #151

    For some reason when I try and play the fully patched game (using the no-cd patch) on my 7068 x64 it will randomly stop working, no other fault than the fallout3.exe has stopped responding (Faulting application Fallout3.exe, version 1.4.0.6).

    Usually just before it stop responding I have noticed in my crash logs that Games for Windows - LIVE DLL has a problem (yellow warning triangle and not the red circular error warning within the applications logs), about 3 minutes or so before the game locks up.

    Title Fallout3.exe (1.4.0.6) XLive 2.0.0673.0 (PANORAMA_V2.00_RTM.081028-1714) C:\Windows\system32\xlive.dll
    0x80004005

    Games for Windows - LIVE DLL
    C:\Windows\system32\msidcrl40.dll 5.000.737.6

    I have installed the latest Windows Live but still the problem occurs.

    Using the same build of the game and same load order and Vista 32 it runs without any errors and no crashes.

    Strange and yet I find that due to the above I now need to run Vista 32 as I want to continue my Fallout campaign but it is too problematic under Win 7.

    EDIT:

    I might have found a solution to this, still trying it out though...

    I am using 2 x 2GB sticks of OCZ PC 8000 memory @ 1000mhz and I have now upped the voltage to 2.1v from 1.8v. As I was getting a stop message 0xc0000005 within the application logs that could be indicative of a memory problem.
    Last edited by Vimes; 01 Apr 2009 at 09:15.
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  2. Posts : 12,364
    8 Pro x64
       #152

    Probably a silly question, but if you suspect the memory have you run memtest86+?
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  3. Posts : 57
    Windows 7 Professional (64-bit)
       #153

    smarteyeball may be right run Memtest86+ to see if that could be it. I know that FO3 needs Games For Windows to get Ach's but try installing the game with out the Games for Windows then try the NoDVD Patch hope this help! Tip don't play with voltages you will lose something.
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  4. Posts : 23
    Vista 32 SP1 and W7 7201 x64
       #154

    Thanks for the suggestion, yes I have left the PC running memtest all night and checked the following day to find zero errors.

    Alas it caused another problem - again crashing as above but this time the error was only with the live dll.

    I am now booted to Vista and the game plays without fault.

    A shame really as W7 is perfect in every way, my other games and applications work without any issues, but Fallout just so happens to be the game that I'm playing at the moment and typically it is that one that W7 is having some issues with.

    As for the memory it is rated at 2.1v but my motherboard sets it at 1.8v as default and then needs 0.3v adding. I never bothered with the 0.3v as it passed running memtest for over 12 hours and all other stress testing has been fine. It was more of a desperate measure to up the voltage to the recommended specification, which didn't work anyway.!
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  5. Posts : 4
    Windows 7 x64 7086
       #155

    Yea, a mighty shame.
    The only thing that's pissing me off about Windows 7 is just...Fallout...

    Everything, minus Alcohol 120%, just seems to work with Windows 7. And, having to work with computers running 64 bit Operating Systems on a daily basis, I can say that they are extremely stable, contrary to what everyone else says regarding, well, anything. Granted some applications cant run on the 64 bit platform, that's a minor setback to being able to fully utilize over 4gb of ram. Same goes for Vista. I havn't encountered a single problem with it, I just don't get what the hype is.

    Anywho...


    I'm going to use one of the application loggers like what Vimes was using and see if I cant find a problem. I'm starting to suspect that it is a Game For Windows problem, but that wouldnt make sense because I can play GTAIV just fine.

    A special note to PhoneyVirus:
    Grammar, it's your friend. So are periods, spaces, commands, semicolons, and, well, just about every other part of the English Langage you butchered in your past few posts. As, as for why I'm running 64bit Vista, I need it for not only work, but also to utilize all 4GBs of my RAM. So, try to find a different way to be an ass.

    EDIT: I tried to run Fallout and it ran! April Fools! Didn't work. But here's the appcrash data.
    Problem signature:
    Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
    Application Name: Fallout3.exe
    Application Version: 1.4.0.6
    Application Timestamp: 4981c35c
    Fault Module Name: Fallout3.exe
    Fault Module Version: 1.4.0.6
    Fault Module Timestamp: 4981c35c
    Exception Code: c0000005
    Exception Offset: 007ee0b5
    OS Version: 6.1.7057.2.0.0.256.1
    Locale ID: 1033
    Additional Information 1: 1c1f
    Additional Information 2: 1c1fa4195bb39b2113309d4e178cab0a
    Additional Information 3: 667a
    Additional Information 4: 667afb58659e2cd6bb69b460ebe0ae14
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  6. Posts : 23
    Vista 32 SP1 and W7 7201 x64
       #156



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    @Nevada - have a look within the above logs to see if you too experience any issues with xlive preceding your crashes with Fallout.

    The red Error one above the yellow xlive issue is similar to the error message that you have noted in your post.

    Whilst it is good news that you can run GTA IV fine using xlive you will appreciate that the interaction between xlive and any particular game doesn't mean because one can run fine then all your others will be ok.?

    Did you also need to install the latest version of xlive to get the game to even run with W7..?

    I am tempted to test out the x86 version of build 7068 to see if that produces the same errors as I'm finding with the 64bit version.

    Whilst I like the fact that all of my 4GB can be addressed and utilised when I use 32bit OS then 3.5GB is available, the difference in practical terms for me is meaningless.
    Last edited by Vimes; 02 Apr 2009 at 03:23.
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  7. Posts : 4
    Windows 7 x64 7086
       #157

    Nope.
    I just get the error upfront, no warnings for the XLIVE app. I'm actually going to install Vista over windows 7 right now and go back to running Vista 64 Until new drivers can be released for my card.
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  8. Posts : 6
    Windows 7 7068
       #158

    Just installed 7068 with the latest nvidia win7 beta drivers and experiencing the same crashes in Fallout 3 as other people have mentioned. Worked fine indoors but outdoors once I use VATS it crashes.

    Also seeing the xlive error in the event log.

    Is anyone using the latest nvidia Vista drivers in Win 7?
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  9. Posts : 23
    Vista 32 SP1 and W7 7201 x64
       #159

    FWIW I have an ATI 4870 with the 9.3 CATS. I have gone back to Vista 32 and Fallout works perfectly. I still have W7 7068 x64 on my other hard drive to boot to but trying to play Fallout is too problematic.
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  10. Posts : 6
    Windows 7 7068
       #160

    I just installed the 182.06 vista x64 drivers, replacing the 181.71 win7 beta's and took a quick run around outside using VATS and fast travelling without any crashes.

    I can even use my main soundcard now (had to use my onboard earlier, else I couldnt even get in-game)

    I'll have to test it out more later.
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