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Windows 7: Gaming motherboards

11 Jan 2014   #11
linnemeyerhere

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ultimate 64
 
 

I wouldn't break your friends heart as long as their happy you could just say that many good choices were available. Maybe the real lesson is to be educated as best as possible before stepping into the store and to make sure your comfortable with the place completely. You hit the issue solid on the nail: There was an urgency at play and a willingness to be sold.
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Guys, thanks so much for your replies.

I'm not a "point the finger" type of girl, but I do feel much better after these comments. I was in IT for a long long time before I got "downsized" and forcibly retired, and I was starting to think that i'd lost touch with I.T. reality.

My kids and I all use ASRock Extreme 4 Mobos now, with I7-3770K, 32GB 2400mhz RAM, Liquid cooling, SSD Boot drives with 2TB spinners, GTX660Ti or GTX670 GPUs, 2x27" monitors. The CPU's are overclocked only to 4.1 GHZ. We haven't found a game we can't play.

I asked him what he plays, and uses the machine for, DOTA 2 seems to be about the most intense game he plays, along with Runescape and WOW, none of which are particularly demanding, so I thought the system I'd spec'd for him had plenty of grunt and room to spare.

I told him not to buy from a shop unless they would build to spec, but he was in a hurry it seems.

I will try and share these comments with him, he may not want to know how much he was scammed though.Especially since his mother paid for the PC for him (Which could be why he didn't care too much about the price).



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11 Jan 2014   #12
smarteyeball

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TanyaC View Post

He took it to a PC shop, where the sale person was "absolutely shocked that anyone would quote anything so shitty, and it was nothing like a gaming motherboard". He sold him one worth $569.
Worth? My arse.

What board did he get do you know? Only the x79 Asus Rampage IV Extreme / Black boards break the $500 barrier here in Aus.

He (and his mother) were financially raped. The salesman is little more than a crook.


What store did he use? Fingers need to be pointed in this case.

A "gaming board" consists of two things: The amount/quality of phases for CPU overclockablity and the PCIE lane compatibility intended for quad sli/crossfire usage. 1150 is best at x16/x16/x8/x8 2011 is the full x16/x16/x16/x16
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11 Jan 2014   #13
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball View Post
He (and his mother) were financially raped. The salesman is little more than a crook.
Dang Patrick, tell us how you really feel

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What board did he get do you know? Only the x79 Asus Rampage IV Extreme / Black boards break the $500 barrier here in Aus.
Probably

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A "gaming board" consists of two things: The amount/quality of phases for CPU overclockablity and the PCIE lane compatibility intended for quad sli/crossfire usage. 1150 is best at x16/x16/x8/x8 2011 is the full x16/x16/x16/x16
True; and thus the added cost.

Good post
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11 Jan 2014   #14
Solarstarshines

Windows 10 Home Premium 64bit sp1
 
 

My Board was only $125.00 and it is a Beast

I did to the Salesman that he did to your friend i stuck it to him
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11 Jan 2014   #15
Dude

Windows 10 Pro X64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Solarstarshines View Post
My Board was only $125.00 and it is a Beast

I did to the Salesman that he did to your friend i stuck it to him
Yes you scored a good one Tommy
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11 Jan 2014   #16
Anthropoid

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TanyaC View Post

He took it to a PC shop, where the sale person was "absolutely shocked that anyone would quote anything so shitty, and it was nothing like a gaming motherboard". He sold him one worth $569.
A "gaming board" consists of two things: The amount/quality of phases for CPU overclockablity and the PCIE lane compatibility intended for quad sli/crossfire usage. 1150 is best at x16/x16/x8/x8 2011 is the full x16/x16/x16/x16
Wow. I think I took the red pill

That bolded part is almost like reading a foreign language to me.

Whether you folks get along all the time or not, I can already see that I'm going to learn a LOT about computers on this forum!
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11 Jan 2014   #17
TanyaC

Linux Mint 17 Cinnamon | Win 7 Ult x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TanyaC View Post

He took it to a PC shop, where the sale person was "absolutely shocked that anyone would quote anything so shitty, and it was nothing like a gaming motherboard". He sold him one worth $569.
Worth? My arse.

What board did he get do you know? Only the x79 Asus Rampage IV Extreme / Black boards break the $500 barrier here in Aus.

He (and his mother) were financially raped. The salesman is little more than a crook.


What store did he use? Fingers need to be pointed in this case.

A "gaming board" consists of two things: The amount/quality of phases for CPU overclockablity and the PCIE lane compatibility intended for quad sli/crossfire usage. 1150 is best at x16/x16/x8/x8 2011 is the full x16/x16/x16/x16
True - "Worth" was a bad choice. "For" would have been a better word

What breaks the $500 barrier depends on the integrity of the salesperson it seems. Though there are a few 1150 boards that break the $500 barrier around Melbourne alone. The G1 Sniper5 Z87 ($515), The ASUS Maximus VI Extreme ($535), and GA-Z87X OC Force ($550).

In any case, he was sold the G1 Sniper for $569.

He lives in Newcastle.

I feel so bad for him. I really tried to give him good advice (and it may well have been), but he still got ripped off (IMHO around $800+). There was no real need for urgency as he had a laptop and a working system that was only 3 years old. But as teens go, when they want something they want it now!

Everyone's responses have been wonderful. I've picked up several good pieces of info here and I'd hate to see this thread devolve into a less than friendly state. Can we consider this question answered.
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12 Jan 2014   #18
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Wow! your prices must be high in Australia cause here in the United States, that G1 Board is only 399 which even at that price is a bit much. Still I have that board, but got it at 339, which is still a bit high, but far better than 399 here, or 569 there.

On the flipside, it really is a nice feature rich board. Incidentally the Asus Maximus VI board here is going for $378, the GA-Z87X OC Force at 409 (Amazon prices).

All 3 are these boards are considered high end gaming boards with loads of features and overclocability not normally found on "standard" boards, and as such are priced accordingly.

If you look at the features and capabilities of these boards compared to non gaming boards, you'd get a sense of why they come in at a premium price.

Are they worth it? Depends on what you want. Why do people pay 6-7 hundred dollars for a video card; a thousand dollars for a CPU?.... Performance.

Think of these rigs as the sports cars of the computing community.
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12 Jan 2014   #19
Indianatone

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate and numerous virtual machines
 
 

I used to get asked all the time by people what should I buy, be it TV, computer or even VCR's DVD players etc. I would advise on the best of my ability thinking of build quality, ease of repair (having to ship a Vizio TV to California for repair is not what I considered "good" support from the manufacturer) or in the case of Vizio badge engineered Chinese junk were they stick their name on a product. It was a complete waste of time in all cases, they bought what the salesman recommended not what someone who had spent 30 years in electronics had told them. Of course we all know sales staff are so very qualified as they are just out of school and know sweet FA apart from how much commission do I get on this product. I would not let it phase me Tanya. Just another moron that asked for advice and was sweet talked by a salesman. Happens all the time.
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12 Jan 2014   #20
Solarstarshines

Windows 10 Home Premium 64bit sp1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Indianatone View Post
I used to get asked all the time by people what should I buy, be it TV, computer or even VCR's DVD players etc. I would advise on the best of my ability thinking of build quality, ease of repair (having to ship a Vizio TV to California for repair is not what I considered "good" support from the manufacturer) or in the case of Vizio badge engineered Chinese junk were they stick their name on a product. It was a complete waste of time in all cases, they bought what the salesman recommended not what someone who had spent 30 years in electronics had told them. Of course we all know sales staff are so very qualified as they are just out of school and know sweet FA apart from how much commission do I get on this product. I would not let it phase me Tanya. Just another moron that asked for advice and was sweet talked by a salesman. Happens all the time.

Funny you mention Vizo repair center it is right down the street from me i am in South Orange county lol
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