Modern Warfare 2 and Windows 7

IW News:http://www.infinityward.com/news.php?id=3

It's not that I'm trying to defend IW...I could care less about another corporation raking in billions of dollars. All I'm simply doing is reporting what I'm finding.

And what I find is mostly good. I'm having fun playing the game--although it's not the greatest FPS multiplayer of all time (I prefer BF2, the original TFC, or old school DoD).

BTW, what is "Serious FPS competitive experience"? I've been playing FPS multiplayers since Goldeneye...not sure if that counts. I missed the boat on the Doom DM from 1993...didn't have internet at my house back then...

Corpsecrank said:

What is with people defending IW and this game?

I think it's crap. Not because there is nothing good about it because it does have some good things about it. But it is not a good game because the P2P system is trash and opens the doors to every cheat ever known to the FPS world all at once.

The game only feels smooth because everyone else is lagging as bad as you are and they throttle the game to meet the speed of the slowest players. Basically what you have is a solid 100ms ping game that gives the illusion of a 30ms ping game. If you adjust your config to display more bars on the bing graph and then adjust how many ms the bars represent to 20 the graph will scale from 0-200ms each bar representing 20ms so you can get an accurate ping reading using the bars. What you will see is going to make you sick really. One game the host was using a program to throttle his upload to 10kb/s so that everyone had severe lag while he himself had none. You would get shot before you could see him and the game still felt like it was running fine and dandy with no lag yeah right no lag lol. This game is nothing but lag.

IW did a great job by removing the numerical ping display in favor of a VERY inaccurate bar graph that was intentionally set to show you a pretty picture of what is not actually happening. They did a lot to make you think your not lagging when in fact this is the laggiest FPS game on the market.

Enough about lag though. The downsides to this game far outweigh any positives and that is the problem. That is what makes this a bad game.

I don't expect anyone without serious competitive experience in PC FPS games to understand why this game is a complete disaster but it is that much I can assure you of. I would not recommend you buy this for the PC.

Now if you want to talk about the 360 version then sure it is a great game probably one of the best this year. But the game was designed to run on the 360 and ported to all the other platforms I expect it to run the way it was intended on a 360 and if you wanted to buy the game for 360 I would say go for it. The match making and ping match what you would expect on a 360 where as they do not on the PC version.

nobody is defending IW we just like the game thats it , you dont , thats fine too

ive played COD 1 cod 2 medal of honour 1 and 2 and counter strike source in ladders and leagues and ive played counter strike semi professionally , is that serious enough for you??

it doesnt matter if your ping is 20 or 200 if everyone has the same ping there is no lag the game feels smooth because it is . IW Net does a good job of packet handling ive had NO experiance of lag or feeling im at a disadvantage. I have 10 years experiance of online gaming i have a small idea what im talking about

yes its not perfect yes its open to abuse but the chances of coming across somebody throttling their upload (which after looking at the game files im not sure how he did much less beleive its true) are 1000's to one

yes dedicated servers would be better but after all the backlash the game got before its release it seems it was all misinformed and as for the thousands who said they would never buy it....well 90% of them bought it anyway and 80% of them are enjoying it

the game is well worth the cash....my opinion

skunksmash said:

just finished installing this game...

had some problems with Steam(ing POS) though , i just wouldn't update for hours, finally in the last few minutes the app has come online..


so, HAPPY DAYS.........first impressions.

:)EXCELLENT!!:)

some problems!! i had one major issue , i had a hard copy of the game but after trying to install it steam instead decided to download it lol i was pulling me hair out for a good half hour trying to sort that one out

glad you like it

Nobax said:

IW News:http://www.infinityward.com/news.php?id=3

Quote from the link:

Cheat / Hack Free Games: The biggest benefit of using IWnet by far is the fact that you don’t have to worry about joining a server full of aim-bots, wallhacks, or cheaters. Or relying on the server admin of the server to constantly be monitoring, banning, and policing it. Modern Warfare 2 on PC allows us to control the quality of the game much more than ever before as well as utilizing the VAC (Valve-Anti-Cheat) system to keep games clean of hackers and cheaters.

Based on early indication of the online game experience and hacks floating around for MW2, one could say that IWNET does not measure up to this claim.

The other aspect of the IWNET is UPnP requirement for the broadband, or any other NAT router. The MW2 multi-player application talks to your broadband router and if UPnP enabled, the application dynamically maps port forwarding between the computer and the Internet. This allows the computer becoming the host for the game instead of just being a client. While I am pretty sure that the MW2 application behaves well and signals to the router that the dynamic port forwarding is no longer necessary and can be removed, other applications may not behave as well.

From the security perspective UPnP can be viewed as a risk and there has been some exploits that take advantage of UPnP. That might be the reason why this is a feature that comes disabled on most, if not all broadband routers by default.

While it is certainly true UPnP can be a secure protocol, as long as you know and control the applications on your computer, for most people it's probably not the case. Way to go IW making the gaming community less secure with the UPnP requirement...

You can't ever be completely cheat free, unfortunately.

Cr00zng said:

Nobax said:

IW News:http://www.infinityward.com/news.php?id=3

Quote from the link:

Cheat / Hack Free Games: The biggest benefit of using IWnet by far is the fact that you don’t have to worry about joining a server full of aim-bots, wallhacks, or cheaters. Or relying on the server admin of the server to constantly be monitoring, banning, and policing it. Modern Warfare 2 on PC allows us to control the quality of the game much more than ever before as well as utilizing the VAC (Valve-Anti-Cheat) system to keep games clean of hackers and cheaters.

Based on early indication of the online game experience and hacks floating around for MW2, one could say that IWNET does not measure up to this claim.

The other aspect of the IWNET is UPnP requirement for the broadband, or any other NAT router. The MW2 multi-player application talks to your broadband router and if UPnP enabled, the application dynamically maps port forwarding between the computer and the Internet. This allows the computer becoming the host for the game instead of just being a client. While I am pretty sure that the MW2 application behaves well and signals to the router that the dynamic port forwarding is no longer necessary and can be removed, other applications may not behave as well.

From the security perspective UPnP can be viewed as a risk and there has been some exploits that take advantage of UPnP. That might be the reason why this is a feature that comes disabled on most, if not all broadband routers by default.

While it is certainly true UPnP can be a secure protocol, as long as you know and control the applications on your computer, for most people it's probably not the case. Way to go IW making the gaming community less secure with the UPnP requirement...

I read a very long time ago that upnp was a bad thing . i downloaded and ran an app called universal plug and pray from the shields up website https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

still to this day i have upnp disabled according to that app yet i can still run cod mw2 so i am a little confused , i did however open my NAT it was previously set to strict and gave me issues getting into games , again im told this is a security issue but at the end of the day if i get stung its my own fault , the chances of it happening though are pretty slim imo

I've got COD4 MW running on Windows 7 no problems, it actually runs alot better on Windows 7 and looks alot better than it did on Vista, so you shouldnt have any problems running MW2 on Windows 7.