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Windows 7: Help! Gaming PC:Where To Start

04 Jan 2010   #11
stormy13
Microsoft MVP

Win 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Oops, had picked the x4 620 (not sure what happened to leave it out),

AMD Athlon II X4 Quad Core 620 2.60GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail [ADX620WFGIBOX] Processors AMD Athlon X2/X4

which would bring the total to £448.13.

All proces subject to change, and/or finding similar components elsewhere cheaper.


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04 Jan 2010   #12
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

That Antec 300 is a very nice case actually, and excellent airflow. Especially if you like the looks of the 900series.

Just like the 900, but no see through window and a smaller fan on top, and a good deal cheaper.

used one in build about 4 months ago
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05 Jan 2010   #13
delilah95

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium
 
 

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Arianet or Ebuyer have some great bargains for PC components. Or from Powerc

iBUILD™ AMD Gaming PC All Rounder
£429.95 inc VAT

  • Gigabyte GZ-X5 Black ATX MIDI Tower Case
  • 650 Watt Power Supply Unit
  • Gigabyte GA-MA770-UD3
  • AMD Athlon II X2 250 Dual Core 3.0GHz 2MB L2 Cache
  • Standard CPU Cooling Fan
  • Samsung 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 800MHz
  • 500GB 7200RPM SATA II
  • 22x DVD RW Black SATA
  • nVidia GeForce GT 240 1GB
  • Built-in audio
  • 2 Year Return to Base Warranty with Free Collect & Return
That looks like a stonking price for the specification. I have used PCSpecialist in the past - they have a really nice configurator tool on their website - but after a quick look I don't think they could match that price.
I bought my PC from PowerC and if you read the testimonials on the site there are a lot of pleased customers.
Those specs are great! Thanks for that suggestion and the help the only thing that would remotely concern me is the AMD proccesor as they're not really the best for gaming but for some reason they have higher clock speeds than intel (I don't quite understand that forgive me if I'm wrong).

But still thanks for the quick replies everyone...I'll check out the one from overclockers now!
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05 Jan 2010   #14
delilah95

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by stormy13 View Post
Oops, had picked the x4 620 (not sure what happened to leave it out),

AMD Athlon II X4 Quad Core 620 2.60GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail [ADX620WFGIBOX] Processors AMD Athlon X2/X4

which would bring the total to £448.13.

All proces subject to change, and/or finding similar components elsewhere cheaper.
another good offer, really great paticuarly with the graphics card although i would agree with the post by wishmaster mentioning about the casing possibly I could get a cheaper one which would allow me to improve elsewhere...
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05 Jan 2010   #15
Frostmourne

Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by delilah95 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by stormy13 View Post
Oops, had picked the x4 620 (not sure what happened to leave it out),

AMD Athlon II X4 Quad Core 620 2.60GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail [ADX620WFGIBOX] Processors AMD Athlon X2/X4

which would bring the total to £448.13.

All proces subject to change, and/or finding similar components elsewhere cheaper.
another good offer, really great paticuarly with the graphics card although i would agree with the post by wishmaster mentioning about the casing possibly I could get a cheaper one which would allow me to improve elsewhere...
That quad is useless for gaming - it has no L3 cache and no game uses 4 threads, only GTA 4.
Go for a Phenom II 550 Black Edition and a 4890 - the GT 240 is a media card, not for games. Also look at a motherboard with an integrated GPU in case your main graphics card dies and DDR3 RAM. Here is the system I built:

Excellent gaming performance in 7
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06 Jan 2010   #16
delilah95

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium
 
 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by stormy13 View Post
Oops, had picked the x4 620 (not sure what happened to leave it out),

AMD Athlon II X4 Quad Core 620 2.60GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail [ADX620WFGIBOX] Processors AMD Athlon X2/X4

which would bring the total to £448.13.

All proces subject to change, and/or finding similar components elsewhere cheaper.
another good offer, really great paticuarly with the graphics card although i would agree with the post by wishmaster mentioning about the casing possibly I could get a cheaper one which would allow me to improve elsewhere...
That quad is useless for gaming - it has no L3 cache and no game uses 4 threads, only GTA 4.
Go for a Phenom II 550 Black Edition and a 4890 - the GT 240 is a media card, not for games. Also look at a motherboard with an integrated GPU in case your main graphics card dies and DDR3 RAM. Here is the system I built:

Excellent gaming performance in 7
Right, this makes sense because I've heard of many games not supporting even dual-core, for example my copy of Microsoft Flight Simulator X seems to utilise only one core. So AMD is still my best bet but I should stick with a dual or single core, something along the lines of the spec listed in your gaming rig. DDR3 is an essential I've heard of but I guess this will get used more so on x64 systems (is that right?). As for the intergrated back up graphics card...is that a real essential considering that if the card goes bust I could just buy a cheap temporary replacement... I mean how likely is a malfunction?
Thanks for the advice
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06 Jan 2010   #17
Coolness

Win 7 pro 64-bit, Ubuntu 9.10 64-bit
 
 

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another good offer, really great paticuarly with the graphics card although i would agree with the post by wishmaster mentioning about the casing possibly I could get a cheaper one which would allow me to improve elsewhere...
That quad is useless for gaming - it has no L3 cache and no game uses 4 threads, only GTA 4.
Go for a Phenom II 550 Black Edition and a 4890 - the GT 240 is a media card, not for games. Also look at a motherboard with an integrated GPU in case your main graphics card dies and DDR3 RAM. Here is the system I built:

Excellent gaming performance in 7
Right, this makes sense because I've heard of many games not supporting even dual-core, for example my copy of Microsoft Flight Simulator X seems to utilise only one core. So AMD is still my best bet but I should stick with a dual or single core, something along the lines of the spec listed in your gaming rig. DDR3 is an essential I've heard of but I guess this will get used more so on x64 systems (is that right?). As for the intergrated back up graphics card...is that a real essential considering that if the card goes bust I could just buy a cheap temporary replacement... I mean how likely is a malfunction?
Thanks for the advice
First off: Almost all new games support multiple cores, but i agree, for gaming you only need a dual core since most of the work is done by the GPU
Number two: Graphics cards always have a high chance of malfunction. It is recommended that you have a backup as an intergated. Also, 64-bit OS's support 4gb+ RAM, while 32-bits only -4gb. DDR3 is how fast the RAM is, measured in Mhz
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With data being transferred 64 bits at a time per memory module, DDR3 SDRAM gives a transfer rate of (memory clock rate) × 4 (for bus clock multiplier) × 2 (for data rate) × 64 (number of bits transferred) / 8 (number of bits/byte). Thus with a memory clock frequency of 100 MHz, DDR3 SDRAM gives a maximum transfer rate of 6400 MB/s.
DDR3 SDRAM - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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06 Jan 2010   #18
sergiogarcia9

 

I just got a pretty good deal from Computer Supplies and PC Components from Novatech which is located in the UK

This is without a gfx card though, and you will probably need a better PSU

1 x BB-6204G Novatech Barebone Bundle - AMD II X4 620 Quad Core - 4GB DDR2 800Mhz - Nvidia MCP61P Motherboard - 4 Bay ATX Tower Case & PSU
@ GBP 182.60 each (Ex Vat)

1 x SAM-S222A Samsung S222A 22x DVD+/-RW 8x Dual Layer DVD-RAM IDE Black - OEM
@ GBP 19.57 each (Ex Vat)

2 x CAB-SATA Novatech SATA Cable - 46cm
@ GBP 3.40 each (Ex Vat)

1 x WD-5AAKS Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 16MB Cache Hard Drive SATAII 300MB/s <8.9ms 7200rpm - OEM
@ GBP 34.03 each (Ex Vat)

Total cost of Products in your Basket...... 243.00
Total cost of Delivery..................... 16.00
Total amount of VAT........................ 45.34

============================================================
TOTAL AMOUNT OF YOUR ORDER (GBP) 304.34
============================================================
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06 Jan 2010   #19
delilah95

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium
 
 

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That quad is useless for gaming - it has no L3 cache and no game uses 4 threads, only GTA 4.
Go for a Phenom II 550 Black Edition and a 4890 - the GT 240 is a media card, not for games. Also look at a motherboard with an integrated GPU in case your main graphics card dies and DDR3 RAM. Here is the system I built:

Excellent gaming performance in 7
Right, this makes sense because I've heard of many games not supporting even dual-core, for example my copy of Microsoft Flight Simulator X seems to utilise only one core. So AMD is still my best bet but I should stick with a dual or single core, something along the lines of the spec listed in your gaming rig. DDR3 is an essential I've heard of but I guess this will get used more so on x64 systems (is that right?). As for the intergrated back up graphics card...is that a real essential considering that if the card goes bust I could just buy a cheap temporary replacement... I mean how likely is a malfunction?
Thanks for the advice
First off: Almost all new games support multiple cores, but i agree, for gaming you only need a dual core since most of the work is done by the GPU
Number two: Graphics cards always have a high chance of malfunction. It is recommended that you have a backup as an intergated. Also, 64-bit OS's support 4gb+ RAM, while 32-bits only -4gb. DDR3 is how fast the RAM is, measured in Mhz
Quote:
With data being transferred 64 bits at a time per memory module, DDR3 SDRAM gives a transfer rate of (memory clock rate) × 4 (for bus clock multiplier) × 2 (for data rate) × 64 (number of bits transferred) / 8 (number of bits/byte). Thus with a memory clock frequency of 100 MHz, DDR3 SDRAM gives a maximum transfer rate of 6400 MB/s.
DDR3 SDRAM - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hmmm.. right so the OS won't be a factor in that situation. Thanks for the help...I understand that an intergrated backed up graphics card is a good idea, thats interesting but means that some of the specs in mind will have to go down obviously as the motehrboard will cost more...in terms of motherboards with decent processors on AND intergrated graphics card where do they stand because for example a hardcore gamer probably won't be interested in an intergrates graphics card...or will they?
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06 Jan 2010   #20
delilah95

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sergiogarcia9 View Post
I just got a pretty good deal from Computer Supplies and PC Components from Novatech which is located in the UK

This is without a gfx card though, and you will probably need a better PSU

1 x BB-6204G Novatech Barebone Bundle - AMD II X4 620 Quad Core - 4GB DDR2 800Mhz - Nvidia MCP61P Motherboard - 4 Bay ATX Tower Case & PSU
@ GBP 182.60 each (Ex Vat)

1 x SAM-S222A Samsung S222A 22x DVD+/-RW 8x Dual Layer DVD-RAM IDE Black - OEM
@ GBP 19.57 each (Ex Vat)

2 x CAB-SATA Novatech SATA Cable - 46cm
@ GBP 3.40 each (Ex Vat)

1 x WD-5AAKS Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 16MB Cache Hard Drive SATAII 300MB/s <8.9ms 7200rpm - OEM
@ GBP 34.03 each (Ex Vat)

Total cost of Products in your Basket...... 243.00
Total cost of Delivery..................... 16.00
Total amount of VAT........................ 45.34

============================================================
TOTAL AMOUNT OF YOUR ORDER (GBP) 304.34
============================================================
Not too bad at all... I mean with an graphics card and a better power supply the most added on to the price will be 150GBP? Although at I'm not sure I'd use all 4 cores and whether the DDR2 would be too slow, I guess it wouldbe sufficient. Thanks for the list of components...
is there intergrated sound on the motherboard?
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