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Windows 7: Boxed PC games market 'gone by 2011'

11 Feb 2010   #31
Frostmourne

Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64
 
 

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You know what the coolest thing with steam is? You can copy your entire Steam Folder to an external drive, bring it to a friends house, install the steam client and then point the install to the external drive and then play all of your games without needing to install anything but the Steam Client.

When I load a new OS, I install Steam and point the installer to my other drive where my Steam Games are loaded and then just play.

Steam also auto updates all of your games so you don't need to keep running patches manually.
Steam is junk - if the patch breaks the game you can't remove it. What kind of app forces you to update? Its a waste of bytes. If you can connect. I prefer Games for Windows Live anyday.
You don't have to have it patch the game, you have the option of turning off auto updates.
No, you install the game, update Steam, then you must update the game at least once - when the patch can be 1GB plus. USELESS.


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11 Feb 2010   #32
ManOwar2

Windows 7 x64
 
 

Honestly having a disc is a must when you can. No need to constantly download/redownload/backup your files and your games to have them working.

But what does really get annoying are thoses actual pc games that you buy boxed but require internet for activation (like empire total war on steam) and then when you install the game it is linked to the digital download and become a part of the lists of your digital games !

This is kinda abusive on my opinion and it is only forcing people to move to digital version.


Of course, the responsibles for the disppearence of PC games in stores is mainly because market like EBgames or Wal-mart only display poor main stream title and do not bother to be innovative at all.

And, the fact that since a couple years it's not possible anymore to exchange your pc games in stores, no ones want them because of piracy.

Somehow, people prefer to pay a console 300$ and spend 80$ for each their game rather than having a 1500$ gaming rid and paying their games 50$.

The funny thing is every game I played on console, I also played them on PC and PC games are so much more superior in graphics and gameplay.

A keyboard and a mouse beat any console controller easily, as any machine of 1500$ will beat a 300$ console...a simple question of mathematic !

Sadly we are far away from thoses old gigantic attractive pc games boxes filling out half the place in compucentre stores with games on 8 floppy disk, early 90's. lol
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11 Feb 2010   #33
Frostmourne

Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ManOwar2 View Post
Honestly having a disc is a must when you can. No need to constantly download/redownload/backup your files and your games to have them working.

But what does really get annoying are thoses actual pc games that you buy boxed but require internet for activation (like empire total war on steam) and then when you install the game it is linked to the digital download and become a part of the lists of your digital games !

This is kinda abusive on my opinion and it is only forcing people to move to digital version.


Of course, the responsibles for the disppearence of PC games in stores is mainly because market like EBgames or Wal-mart only display poor main stream title and do not bother to be innovative at all.

And, the fact that since a couple years it's not possible anymore to exchange your pc games in stores, no ones want them because of piracy.

Somehow, people prefer to pay a console 300$ and spend 80$ for each their game rather than having a 1500$ gaming rid and paying their games 50$.

The funny thing is every game I played on console, I also played them on PC and PC games are so much more superior in graphics and gameplay.

A keyboard and a mouse beat any console controller easily, as any machine of 1500$ will beat a 300$ console...a simple question of mathematic !

Sadly we are far away from thoses old gigantic attractive pc games boxes filling out half the place in compucentre stores with games on 8 floppy disk, early 90's. lol
Solution - don't buy games that force you to accept the SSA - steam subscriber agreement. No steam, just an installer - some have internet activation - Mass Effect 2 doesn't.
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12 Feb 2010   #34
DarkRhystar

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Frostmourne View Post
No, you install the game, update Steam, then you must update the game at least once - when the patch can be 1GB plus. USELESS.
It's tragic you had a bad experience, but that's all it was--a bad experience.

As someone with some degree of technological knowledge you should know the value of keeping an open mind. It's one thing to say "I had a bad experience with this product a while back when an update broke a game" but another to say "This product is useless because updates break games" or the like.

Imagine if you had stopped using Windows back in the 3.1 or '95 days because it crashed on you once. You'd have missed out on a lot of great advances and wouldn't be enjoying Windows 7 as much as you hopefully do today.
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14 Feb 2010   #35
Frostmourne

Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64
 
 

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No, you install the game, update Steam, then you must update the game at least once - when the patch can be 1GB plus. USELESS.
It's tragic you had a bad experience, but that's all it was--a bad experience.

As someone with some degree of technological knowledge you should know the value of keeping an open mind. It's one thing to say "I had a bad experience with this product a while back when an update broke a game" but another to say "This product is useless because updates break games" or the like.

Imagine if you had stopped using Windows back in the 3.1 or '95 days because it crashed on you once. You'd have missed out on a lot of great advances and wouldn't be enjoying Windows 7 as much as you hopefully do today.
Steam isn't Windows - I would persevere and fix the issue with Windows. Steam is useless and boxed games are an alternative for now.
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14 Feb 2010   #36
chrishellmax

windows 7
 
 

Heres my two cents.
We bought dawn of war 2,
spend hours getting the steam to work, spend hours trying to register the game
spend hour trying to get the windows game thingy to workd
And guess how many hours i have played the game?
0 zero.
Right now i am not convinced steam is for me, i might change my mind, the same i
changed it for vista. While trying my best to make something work for me
i get easily frustrated when all those things you have to do and the final
product still dont work
chris
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14 Feb 2010   #37
Zepher

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

I like how you state Steam is useless and boxed games are an alternative.
If Steam was useless then Steam would be an alternative, and not the other way around, as you stated it.

Steams been working great for me since I got 5 or 6 years ago and I still have the same Steam install folder with the games I installed way back then and used them on XP, Vista, and now 7.
I didn't have to re-download them or reinstall them from CD/DVD with my major OS and hardware changes.
Just had to install the Steam client and I was back to gaming.

I do buy boxed games as well like Battlefield 2 which happens to require 2GB in patches to be downloaded after you install the game if you want to play on current servers. Now granted, BF2 is 5 years old but if it were on Steam I wouldn't have to keep reinstalling it when I reload the OS or have to patch it if I were to re-download it as it would be patched already.

The only drawback to Steam is the inability to resell games you beat and might not play again and a quite a few Boxed games are requiring you tie your CD/DVD Key to an email or profile, like Games for Windows when playing multiplayer, which makes it hard to resell the game.
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14 Feb 2010   #38
Pieloi

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

What ?! OUTRAGE.

Do you remember when pc games came in REAL boxes, you know those giant boxes with the normal CD case inside ? Man those were the days.

Its just like owning a DVD collection ! They are nostalgic ! And all those goodies you can pack into a big special edition box !

Argh. This is unthinkable..
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14 Feb 2010   #39
Zen00

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I would much prefer to be able to buy game content on thumb drives or SD cards. Something that doesn't scratch and get ruined, but is still physical.
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