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Windows 7: Is my PC any good?

04 Feb 2010   #11
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

As others have said and I agree with, get yourself a better video card and I believe your issues will mostly go away.

A quad core Q8300 is likely not going to be too much of an issue. While there are faster chips and new architectures like Core i7 and Core i5...I don't think this is where your issue lies.

The original poster has an HP machine, p6240f...which has the Integrated Intel X4500 graphics chipset and it has access to about 4GB of shared system RAM.


The bigger problem the OP is going to run into, is that this machine has a built in 300Watt power supply unit. That type of power supply will NOT be sufficient to run any of the newer high end video cards.

I read some posts online from people who replaced their power supplies in that same HP model with the following Corsair PSU which is only $89 currently at NewEgg and it fit right in;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...pk=CMPSU-650TX


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04 Feb 2010   #12
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

yea, the PSU will def. be a issue sadly.

Thats a excellent PSU. With plenty of power,and all most will ever need.
Unless your getting into Multiple (High END GPUS)

Depending what card he chooses and what buget, the 400W or 450 W Corsairs are good as well, 32-35A respectivlly.

the downside, they will limit you to the lower end-some mid range graphics card, but is another option if budget is a issue.
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04 Feb 2010   #13
sergiogarcia9

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Frostmourne View Post
No, the CPU is slow and a bottleneck and the GPU is junk. You will never play any games on it. Here is an example of the system I built:

Excellent gaming performance in 7

Only thing on it are benchmarks, games and drivers, along with the associated copy protection apps. No PDF reader nothing else. Minimizes compatibility problems and maximises performance.
*says the guy with 256 mb onboard Graphics and nearly the same CPU*

Seriously his CPU is fine, and with a GT220 or something like that added, it should run some of the newer games.
But you can't expect it to run the newest games at the highest settings.
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04 Feb 2010   #14
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sergiogarcia9 View Post
*says the guy with 256 mb onboard Graphics and nearly the same CPU*
I'm pretty sure that his system specs before listed a Black Edition AMD Phenom II in a desktop computer. Perhaps he has changed his specs now to be his laptop specs instead. I don't know, but I could have sworn that he is an AMD fan and had AMD listed before.
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04 Feb 2010   #15
TeamDerka

Windows 7
 
 

Older games like Republic Commando run like a beast (even better then Jedi Knight Jedi Academy), but Empire at War did lag slightly (and it was a Demo I played) unless I switched my graphics settings to a lower level.
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04 Feb 2010   #16
TeamDerka

Windows 7
 
 

Also, I have an A/C Power Source and have 615.69 gigabytes of Space Left on the C:\ Drive

I tried the Bioshock demo with high settings but at 600X800 view and it still lags but not as much as before (sound still disappears though)
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04 Feb 2010   #17
Frostmourne

Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sergiogarcia9 View Post
*says the guy with 256 mb onboard Graphics and nearly the same CPU*
I'm pretty sure that his system specs before listed a Black Edition AMD Phenom II in a desktop computer. Perhaps he has changed his specs now to be his laptop specs instead. I don't know, but I could have sworn that he is an AMD fan and had AMD listed before.
The specs listed is my day to day laptop. The link has my gaming system with a Phenom II 550 @ 3.1GHz stock. It would be insanity to installs games with a 9300M GS chipset in a laptop.

The OP's CPU is a bottleneck - games need clock speed as much as cache and architecture.
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05 Feb 2010   #18
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

We need to look at the larger picture, and what the OP is asking about to properly answer his question accurately.

CPU speed itself isn't always the main thing. Intell are usually faster clock for clock than AMD, and AMD typically has more memory bandwidth.

Since memory bandwidth doesnt really help much in modern machines for gaming, it isnt a great deal of help when gaming.

For example, a Q8200 (which is slightly slower than the Ops (Q8300) VS a Phenom 2 550.
Look at these bench marks and you can see that, although the q8200 is clocked at 2.3 ghz, It does the same job, and often outperforms the AMD clocked at 3.1

Granted the Phenom will excell in certain areas ... but when it comes to gaming (which is what we are talking about here), number cruching and 3d rendering , the intell does just as well or better in many cases...

with the excpetion of source Games where the Phenom has the advantage.

Q8200 Vs PhenomII 550
Compare , Phenom II X2 550 Dual Core Processor

All CPUS Overall:
Charts, benchmarks 2009 Desktop CPU Charts (Update 1), 3DMark Vantage 1.0.2

In conclusion, a better graphics card and the OP will be able to play games without issue.
the CPU itself will not make a difference in this case, especially at higher resolutions where the GPU takes the majority of the load.

Certain tasks would benefit possibly from a CPU upgrade. but for gaming , its not needed.
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05 Feb 2010   #19
Frostmourne

Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Wishmaster View Post
We need to look at the larger picture, and what the OP is asking about to properly answer his question accurately.

CPU speed itself isn't always the main thing. Intell are usually faster clock for clock than AMD, and AMD typically has more memory bandwidth.

Since memory bandwidth doesnt really help much in modern machines for gaming, it isnt a great deal of help when gaming.

For example, a Q8200 (which is slightly slower than the Ops (Q8300) VS a Phenom 2 550.
Look at these bench marks and you can see that, although the q8200 is clocked at 2.3 ghz, It does the same job, and often outperforms the AMD clocked at 3.1

Granted the Phenom will excell in certain areas ... but when it comes to gaming (which is what we are talking about here), number cruching and 3d rendering , the intell does just as well or better in many cases...

with the excpetion of source Games where the Phenom has the advantage.

Q8200 Vs PhenomII 550
Compare , Phenom II X2 550 Dual Core Processor

All CPUS Overall:
Charts, benchmarks 2009 Desktop CPU Charts (Update 1), 3DMark Vantage 1.0.2

In conclusion, a better graphics card and the OP will be able to play games without issue.
the CPU itself will not make a difference in this case, especially at higher resolutions where the GPU takes the majority of the load.

Certain tasks would benefit possibly from a CPU upgrade. but for gaming , its not needed.
This depends on the resolution - at 1920x1080 the GPU is more valid, but a quad still will not push the CPU properly - these tests were run at resolutions stressing the CPU - 720p, not 1080p.
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06 Feb 2010   #20
TeamDerka

Windows 7
 
 

I was able to find even more of my system stats.


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