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Windows 7: EA Sports to charge $10 to play used games online

15 May 2010   #41
Seven Eleven

Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Richardc269 View Post
This is the reason why I don't ever want Steam. As if I really want to have to activate my games through friggen Steam just to make sure it's a real key. Oh yeah, lovely. More annoying than anything else. And even then, some games on Steam only allow you to install it once, and what if you gotta format your drive? Oh, that's right, you often have to buy another game, simply because they don't let you reinstall the game onto the same computer, even though it has the same hardware. Yeah, lovely program. Thanks, but no thanks. I'll stick with my games that won't go through that awful program. If the games I get say it needs Steam at the store, I just say "forget it" and put it back on the shelf.
so much hate...

a year back i was just like you.



but then i bought Left 4 Dead.


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15 May 2010   #42
Lordbob75

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 

Steam is great when it works....

~Lordbob
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15 May 2010   #43
Everlong

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Richardc269 View Post
This is the reason why I don't ever want Steam. As if I really want to have to activate my games through friggen Steam just to make sure it's a real key. Oh yeah, lovely. More annoying than anything else. And even then, some games on Steam only allow you to install it once, and what if you gotta format your drive? Oh, that's right, you often have to buy another game, simply because they don't let you reinstall the game onto the same computer, even though it has the same hardware. Yeah, lovely program. Thanks, but no thanks. I'll stick with my games that won't go through that awful program. If the games I get say it needs Steam at the store, I just say "forget it" and put it back on the shelf.
That's got nothing to do with Steam.

You could be in the exact same situation with any game with DRM you buy, and not every game uses Windows installer, what about InstallShield? That's a third party program, and then you then a lot of the time have to use a 3rd party program to activate said game as well.

Steam doesn't activate any game through itself. If a game that you can buy on Steam needs to be activated, then it does it through the exact same activation process you'd use if you bought a physical copy of the game. Such as GTA IV. No game that Valve makes that they release on Steam has DRM at all. You install it, and play it. And can reinstall it as many times as you want.

All your arguements against Steam are all moot points as they have nothing to do with Steam as a whole, more to the developers that choose to release there games through Steam.
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15 May 2010   #44
stew2

 

You will never convince those of us who hate steam to love it. Its just to much bloatware for most of us to use. Installing a normal pc game goes like this:
  1. Install game to games partition meaning you will never have to reinstall it
  2. Apply cd key
  3. Apply nocd
  4. play game with or without the disk with instant start up time
Installing a steam game goes like this:
  1. Install steam
  2. Wait for steam to load and then update
  3. create an acount
  4. install game
  5. apply cd key
  6. wait for game to update
  7. then receive a message that you cant play your game as the steam servers are busy
  8. Then when you want to ever try playing the game again wait for the bloat that is steam to load first
Steam and every other drm that iv tried just isn't for me and i avoid all the games that are only available through those systems. EA, valve etc are just losing customers by doing this.
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15 May 2010   #45
Seven Eleven

Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by stew2 View Post
Installing a steam game goes like this:
  1. Install steam
  2. Wait for steam to load and then update
  3. create an acount
  4. install game
  5. apply cd key
  6. wait for game to update
  7. then receive a message that you cant play your game as the steam servers are busy
  8. Then when you want to ever try playing the game again wait for the bloat that is steam to load first
Steam and every other drm that iv tried just isn't for me and i avoid all the games that are only available through those systems. EA, valve etc are just losing customers by doing this.
steps 1-3 is done one and only time.
steps 4-6 has nothing to do with Steam. it is from CD/DVD land. on Steam you download game with latest patch already.
step 7 is moot.
step 8 is relative. you can load it on windows startup.

EA, Valve is losing you and gaining others.
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15 May 2010   #46
stew2

 

  • Steam does need to update quite frequently.
  • My Half Life 2 game i bought on disk as id never heard of steam untill i tried to install it and found out about this bloatware
  • How do i sell my Half Life 2 game disk?.
  • Why is step 7 moot?
  • Why would you want to slow down your boot up time so that an application can load at startup for games when you might not even play a game?
But anyway as you say some people like it and have helped support this drm nightmare and maybe i am in the minority. If you like it then use it but i never will.
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15 May 2010   #47
Lordbob75

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by stew2 View Post
  • Steam does need to update quite frequently.
  • My Half Life 2 game i bought on disk as id never heard of steam untill i tried to install it and found out about this bloatware
  • How do i sell my Half Life 2 game disk?.
  • Why is step 7 moot?
  • Why would you want to slow down your boot up time so that an application can load at startup for games when you might not even play a game?
But anyway as you say some people like it and have helped support this drm nightmare and maybe i am in the minority. If you like it then use it but i never will.
Steam rarely updates (its not worse than windows update)
HL2 is a valve game, and so requires steam. It is like XBox live for PC
You can't
I have never once not been able to play because of busy servers
It takes very little extra time.

~Lordbob
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15 May 2010   #48
stew2

 

  • With windows update i have a choice of when and if im going to install them. With steam i don't have that choice.
  • Yeah i was caught out with half life2.
  • "You can't" I know lol, i was trying to make a point
  • Yeah lots of people are lucky like that
  • but it does take time
But anyway i think we have gone horribly off the topic of EA so il just says this - STEAM sucks
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15 May 2010   #49
Lordbob75

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 

Well, we are all entitled to our opinions.

Steam is not exactly how I would want it, but for its purpose it works.

EA sucks.

~Lordbob
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15 May 2010   #50
sergiogarcia9

 

For the short time i used Steam, i had no problem with it. Worked every time i opened it
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