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Windows 7: New guy, with a big problem

10 Aug 2010   #11
JFortner5

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by madtownidiot View Post
No, it's not a software issue.. computers don't shut off like that because of a software problem. Its a power issue, and you should upgrade to at least a 400 watt power supply. NEVER use only the minimum recommended PSU for a graphics card, especially when you can get an adequate power supply for less than $40.

I'm not trying to argue, I am definitely open for suggestions. But, I put that card in the second day I had this thing, and it has been flawless for 8 months. Can PSU issues just come out of the blue like that?


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10 Aug 2010   #12
richc46

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 10, Home Clean Install
 
 

Bottom line, it does sound like PSU, but your description seems to put the blame on the updates, which quite often go wrong when there are many.
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10 Aug 2010   #13
madtownidiot

 

I wasn't arguing with anyone, just making a definitive statement. Power supplies that run too close to their maximum capacity tend to degrade much faster than normal, so it can start to cause problems seemingly out of the blue, and it will only get worse..
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10 Aug 2010   #14
ken9122

Win7 x64 Ultimate SP1
 
 

That PSU was probably about to go south soon. The updates just pushed it over the cliff.

Ken
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10 Aug 2010   #15
JFortner5

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

It could just be pure coincidence. I just tried a system restore, but it turned off before I could do it.

I think I've had enough for one night. I need to go to bed anyway. I really appreciate everyone's help. I'll try to do a system restore tomorrow when I get home from work just for the hell of it.

One more thing, I don't know if this changes your diagnosis, but I do not have the video card in right now. Im using the integrated graphics until I get this thing fixed.
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10 Aug 2010   #16
JFortner5

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by madtownidiot View Post
I wasn't arguing with anyone, just making a definitive statement. Power supplies that run too close to their maximum capacity tend to degrade much faster than normal, so it can start to cause problems seemingly out of the blue, and it will only get worse..
I didn't mean it like that, I just didn't want you to think I thought you were wrong or something and that I am open to any help.

I just need to figure out how to install one now and what to buy.
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10 Aug 2010   #17
madtownidiot

 

I can help with that, just give me the model # of your system and a few minutes to do some research
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10 Aug 2010   #18
electrotune1200

Windows 8 Pro
 
 

If there was damage done to the PSU, it's already done.

I'm not too knowledgeable about how power supplies work, but I do know once they are pushed to the edge, these symptoms happen.

On another note, does your power supply have a fan for cooling? Maybe the fan was overworked and just decided to quit.
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10 Aug 2010   #19
madtownidiot

 

Picking a PSU and installing it is relatively simple even for someone who's never done it, so long as you get the right type. Still waiting for the model # as some eMachines use ATX cases and others use ATX12, which are similar but not interchangeable

edit: According to Nvidia.com, a GT 220 requires a minimum of 300 watts, and I would recommend getting a 600 watt PSU

As for installing a PSU for the 1st time:
remove the screws that hold the power supply in place so that you can eventually remove it, but don't disconnect anything yet.

Make sure the PSU has all the correct connectors by matching them

Then one by one, disconnect each lead from the from the old PSU and connect a matching lead from the new one in its place before going on to the next one. That way you can be sure everything is connected properly, and don't let wires from the old PSU get tangled with those from its replacement. don't forget to connect power to the graphics card too. When you're sure you have everything connected, try powering up the system for a few minutes before you close the case.

If it looks like a mess, try using twist ties to neatly organize the wires and keep them out of the way.. good luck
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10 Aug 2010   #20
gregrocker

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by JFortner5 View Post
It could just be pure coincidence. I just tried a system restore, but it turned off before I could do it.
Do the System Restore from booted Win7 DVD Repair console or Repair CD. You need a Repair CD anyway in case it won't boot.

System Repair Disc - Create

Get back before the Updates to know for sure they aren't causing this.

Next check the Event Viewer>Admin view for repeat errors, then the Performance-Diagnostics log for events logged at time of power fail. Click through WEI score link at Computer>Properties to Advanced Tools to access Performance Log, look for cued issues, and Generate a System Health Report.
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