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Windows 7: Installation or Restoration...oh yeah...and RAM

12 Aug 2010   #1

Windows 7 Home Premium
Installation or Restoration...oh yeah...and RAM

Hello, Hello,

I am going to purchase a Notebook with Windows 7 Premium pre-installed. The salesman I spoke to said that it doesn't come with the OS Disc or Restoration Discs. The only way I can get the Notebook back up and running if I have problems is if I make my own Restoration Discs (3 - 4 DVD's). I asked if I could install Windows 7 Home Peremium (Retail) from the disc I have already purchased (activated on another pc) & use the Product Key from the Notebook to set up the Notebook to my liking but he said no. Is he telling me the truth or can I use my own Win 7 disc, the notebooks Product Key & successfully activate for internet use?

The Notebooks specs are
Model number: C650/01E
Processor: Core i3 350 2.26GHZ
HDD: 320GB
Win 7 Premium
DVD Writer
15.6 Widescreen
Onboard Graphics: Not stated
Intergrated Wireless

The salesman also said that the 2GB RAM wasn't enough & that I needed 4GB, (like the more expensive model next to it) even though I told him the notebook was primarily going to be used for internet surfing (wireless) with a little bit of audio playback (iTunes) & the occasional movie. Is 2GB RAM enough for what I intend to do?



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12 Aug 2010   #2

Win7 x64 Ultimate SP1

If it was me I'd find a different store. I always get the OS and setup disks. Also go with 4 gig of ram (it's a cheap upgrade). Although if your useing 32bit 2 gig will work fine.

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12 Aug 2010   #3

Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1

2GB is adequate for the 32 bit version of Windows 7.

Microsoft generally requires tha a Windows PC be sold with a means of restoring the OS. Unfortunately, some (most?) notepook PCs only come with a restoration partition on the HD. That's of little use if the HD fails. The recovery DVDs that you're allowed to make would be handy then. (I imagine that either the recovery partition or the disks would restore any crapware that came with the system. Does Toshiba give you much of that?)

I've never done it, but I believe that it's possible to convert a retail install CD into a generic CD that would install the version of Win7 that is determined by your key. Search on "ei.cfg".
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12 Aug 2010   #4

Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit

Yes, you can use the retail copy of 7 to do a clean install and use the OEM key to activate. These tutorials will be of some help to you. I especially like the HDD optimize for reinstall one. It got my computer going a lot faster.

SSD / HDD : Optimize for Windows Reinstallation
Clean Install Windows 7
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12 Aug 2010   #5

W7 Pro 64

go to a different store. Or use the internet.

That laptop sure is outdated. The last time I saw a laptop with 2 Gb was a long time ago.
ALL laptops have 3 GB when they have 32-bit OS. But honestly, most $ 500 laptops already have 4 GB and 64-bit OS (and sure have the restore discs)

the on-board graphics also use some of the RAM.

My 4.5 year old laptop has 2 GB and W7 and runs fine. But if it was a new laptop I'd use the 4 GB. Unless the laptop cost $ 300 and you really need to save moeny, then 2 GB woudl be acceptable for your usage pattern.
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13 Aug 2010   #6

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit


First 2 GB is plenty for what you will be doing.

If you would mention both the manufacturer and the model then we could come up with whether or not it is possible to add more ram.

As said though, 2 GB is enough and plenty. Remember that's the upper limit for many netbooks.

Second, nowadays, not getting a DVD with Windows on it is very common.
Use the laptops option to make a set of backup DVD's. This will allow you to put the laptop back to the original status in case of a disaster.

Third, make a System Repair Disc. You will need this to handle many emergency and problem situations.

Fourth, buy an external USB disk and perform a system image backup of your laptop. This will also allow you to restore your laptop to the original status (assuming you made a System Repair Disc).

START | type System Repair | Enter key | Create Disc button
START | type Backup your computer | Enter key
In left-hand pane, select Create a System Image
select where you want to save the backup | Next
Select the drives you want to backup | Next
Start Backup button
Finish button after completion

Boot from the System Repair CD you created.
Connect the external drive with the backup image
NEXT button (change language if desired)
Restore your computer using a system image
that you created earlier
radio button
NEXT button
Use the latest available system image radio button
NEXT button
Format and repartition discs checkbox
NEXT button
FINISH button
YES button
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13 Aug 2010   #7

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit


To help us help you and so that the info is always there, then use Speccy to gather info about your notebook and the copy/paste that info into your System Specs.

SPECCY- System Information Tool

FREE. Operating System, CPU and Temp, Ram, Motherboard, Graphics, Hard Drives, Optical Drives, Audio, Peripherals, Network info.
Simply putóthis is the best and itís free!



In the line at the top of you will see UserCP.
That is an abbreviation for User Control Panel.
Click on UserCP.
In the left-hand column, under Your Profile you will see Edit System Spec.
Click on Edit System Spec
You can copy and paste from the output of Speccy, to fill out much of the info. Be sure to use the Other Info section of your System Specs for such info as your optical drive, your wireless adapter, your speakers, etc.
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13 Aug 2010   #8

Windows 7 Home Premium

Thanks for the responses.

Some very helpful information here.

I will be using the 32bit OS.

Thanks again,

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19 Sep 2010   #9

Windows 7 Home Premium

Hello again,

A quick update to let everyone know that you can use your own Windows 7 Home Premium DVD (Retail) & the Product Key from a newly purchased Notebook (Windows 7 Home Premium OEM pre-installed), reformat the hard drive to remove bloatware, activate & gain internet access. The only issue I ran into was when I tried to activate over the internet. A message popped up informing me my Activation Limit had been reached. I rang Microsoft & activated by phone & now my new Notebook is activated, updated & running like a dream.

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