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Windows 7: Are you going to buy Win7 at these Prices

22 May 2009   #111
mSeliga

Windows 7 Build 7100 (x64)
 
 

Thats something I never thought about Night Hawk, with MS all up in arms over 64bit computing, will they sell 64bit versions and 32 bit versions on the same disc, or will they make it easier to get a 64 bit version. I was never able to find 64 bit when Vista came out, not at any retail store anyway.


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22 May 2009   #112
PhreePhly

Windows 7 x64 (RTM via MSDN)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mSeliga View Post
Thats something I never thought about Night Hawk, with MS all up in arms over 64bit computing, will they sell 64bit versions and 32 bit versions on the same disc, or will they make it easier to get a 64 bit version. I was never able to find 64 bit when Vista came out, not at any retail store anyway.
The retail version of Vista Ultimate had both media in it. I'm not sure if Home Premium did. That was one of the benefits of buying Retail.

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22 May 2009   #113
zone23

Windows 7 X64
 
 

I think for Vista users the prices would be outrageous. I would be willing to upgrade for maybe $99 dollars for upgrade versions if I can do a fresh install, but I wouldn't be willing to buy OEMs like I have in the past. I currently run Vista Ultimate OEM I guess my question would be why would I pay $199.99 (guessing OEM price) for an OS with less features? When I say less features here are some examples: dreamscene, parental controls, windows photo gallery. I know you can download them from MS but thats just BS. The versions for download blow. The only thing I see thats different is the start bar and themes. In my experience in running 7 it is not any faster than Vista (sorry). MS should take a look at Apple, you can buy a 5 machine license for $199.99. I'm not getting all the hype over 7. Memory use isn't any better like Vista it uses memory based on whats available, and I want my PC to use my memory. Thats the big difference between Vista and XP, XP users don't like using there memory there saving it up for a rainy day I guess.

In short I don't think I will be willing to pay 200 dollars per machine for something that isn't any better then what I'm already running. Lets just face it if your running XP anything would be better so I guess I would be willing to shell out but not from Vista.
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22 May 2009   #114
PhreePhly

Windows 7 x64 (RTM via MSDN)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zone23 View Post
I think for Vista users the prices would be outrageous. I would be willing to upgrade for maybe $99 dollars for upgrade versions if I can do a fresh install, but I wouldn't be willing to buy OEMs like I have in the past. I currently run Vista Ultimate OEM I guess my question would be why would I pay $199.99 (guessing OEM price) for an OS with less features? When I say less features here are some examples: dreamscene, parental controls, windows photo gallery. I know you can download them from MS but thats just BS. The versions for download blow. The only thing I see thats different is the start bar and themes. In my experience in running 7 it is not any faster than Vista (sorry). MS should take a look at Apple, you can buy a 5 machine license for $199.99. I'm not getting all the hype over 7. Memory use isn't any better like Vista it uses memory based on whats available, and I want my PC to use my memory. Thats the big difference between Vista and XP, XP users don't like using there memory there saving it up for a rainy day I guess.

In short I don't think I will be willing to pay 200 dollars per machine for something that isn't any better then what I'm already running. Lets just face it if your running XP anything would be better so I guess I would be willing to shell out but not from Vista.
I never understood dreamscene. It was cute when it first showed up, but it drove me crazy after about 3 hours of use. The photo gallery that you download is basically the same as Vista's. By not tying it to the OS, it can be upgraded on a different schedule than the OS. That's a good thing. Just like the mail client, the new Live Mail client is better than the version with Vista. Parental controls are exactly the same.

Now I agree that Vista is just not that bad, and I agree that if you are using and enjoying Vista, why upgrade to Win 7. Quite honestly, when Vista came out, I would get questions from friends about upgrading. When I saw the systems that they had, I suggested that they stay with XP, as the Vista experience would be sub-par.

For me, using the beta/RC has shown me that my system can easily handle it, and the added GUI features, plus live essential downloads makes it worth the upgrade.

As far as MS following Apple's lead, once again, Apple is a hardware company that has an OS as a loss-leader. Their margins are made on the hardware. MS sells the OS, it's margins come from that software. The two companies are not comparable.

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22 May 2009   #115
zone23

Windows 7 X64
 
 

The reason I don't care as much for the live version of windows photo gallery is primarily do it the integration of SQL. I just don't want my say laptop running data base software, just like I don't index my hard drives. Now thats just me.. Parental control I have not seen in 7, betas had it completely stripped and I could have swore it was also a download from live now. With that said the download from live required my kids (or parent me) to create live accounts, my 6 year old does not need a live account (sorry Haley).

Dreamscene there are some other apps that do the same thing but it was kinda cool to run on holidays like a snowy scene for Christmas. It's definitely one of those things that in no way helps me get my work done, but I like it and thats what set Ultimate aside from Premium (or at least one of the things RDC). Do i run it every second of everyday? No way..


Please read my post slowly and comely because thats how its meant to come off, I'm not arguing. I'm a Vista user of course I like 7 IT's GREAT I'm trying to discuss cost and at this point cost is purely speculation. I'm just discussing some features that make me scratch my head wondering... why would I upgrade or is it really an upgrade from Vista?

I came to this forum from another because I got tired of the Vista haters, I love Vista and 7. XP sucks though.
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22 May 2009   #116
copernicus

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The tension is killing me

We we're all agreed then, you're all gonna chip in and get me a couple of licenses for win7 whatever the price?
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22 May 2009   #117
TechOutsider

Windows XP
 
 

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22 May 2009   #118
zone23

Windows 7 X64
 
 

I think we should try and stay on topic you guys are hijacking this post. Anyway I will say XP has a bigger install base because mmmm its been out for ever maybe?

I just would like to see MS offer some sort of family pack license especially since 7 can be installed on a larger number of computers. I say that because it has lower system requirements and performs better than vista on older hardware.

5 license home use - $299.99
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22 May 2009   #119
ikilledkenny

Windows 7 Professional, Windows Longhorn 4074
 
 

I think that it should have the same prices as Vista.

Or... (Prices in USD)
Starter at $50
Home Basic $75
Home Premium $125
Business/Professional $150
Ultimate at $175


As stated by someone else before, in this economy, nobody is going to buy it at the "official" price.
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22 May 2009   #120
PhreePhly

Windows 7 x64 (RTM via MSDN)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zone23 View Post
I think we should try and stay on topic you guys are hijacking this post. Anyway I will say XP has a bigger install base because mmmm its been out for ever maybe?

I just would like to see MS offer some sort of family pack license especially since 7 can be installed on a larger number of computers. I say that because it has lower system requirements and performs better than vista on older hardware.

5 license home use - $299.99
I llike the idea of a family pack. MS does this with office. The Home and Student version of Office 2007 is $80.00 and includes 3 licenses.

I think a 5-pack is a bit much, I would guess a typical house hold has 3 PC's at most.

3-pack Home Premium for $250, Ultimate for $350.

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