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Windows 7: extending partition?

05 Sep 2010   #21
gregrocker

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Alsenor View Post
I tried using my PM now and it did expand the D partition.
I do have recovery disks, and have used them before to repair a booting problem. That is when I noticed that there were no restore points in my system. Figuring D was out of room I wanted to expand it, assuming that was where the restore points reside.
The Factory Recovery partition is not supposed to be added to at all as it could impair its function. It contains the files to run a full factory recovery from within the OS or by tapping the F11 key at bootup to Run Factory Recovery as shown in this video
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If you made the Recovery Disks off of this partition, they are likewise used to boot to restore the computer to Factory condition. They are not the same as the repair disk used to repair Win7 if it will not start: Repair CD - System Repair Disk

All of this is separate from System Restore, which is a Win7 feature that can return your OS to an earlier state before problems occurred: System Restore

So your restore points have nothing to do with the Recovery partition and are always stored on the OS drive unless you move them which would mess them up.

Please continue to ask any questions so we can clear up any remaining confusion, which is common between Restore<>Repair<>Recovery.


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05 Sep 2010   #22
Alsenor

 
 

Thank you, whs, I found it.
@ gregrocker:
So you are saying I wasted that unallocated space on a partition that need not be any larger, right? But it was the only adjacent option! Is it correct to expect that now that I extended that D partition I may not be able to do a factory restore if needed one day?
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05 Sep 2010   #23
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

You can still use the space for a second storage and backup partition separate from the C primary. The recovery partition you had been looking at inbetween is generally hidden from view and often found at either the start or back end of the drive. How it ended up in the middle of the drive is.... ??? your guess there!

The recovery partition especially while under warranty and not having a set of recovery disks made for the preinstalled 7 would be something to consider as far as moving to the back. Did you previously shrink the C volume down and then move that as well?

As for where restore points go by default that would be the "System Volume Information" folder you typically see at the root of the hard drive. That's a system protected folder and won't generally allow any direct access to it while booted in Windows.
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05 Sep 2010   #24
Alsenor

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
Did you previously shrink the C volume down and then move that as well?
I took a chunk of the C partition when I tried to create space for XP as a second OS. Dropped that idea and bought a second drive for it instead.
That left me with an unneeded partition.
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05 Sep 2010   #25
gregrocker

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Alsenor View Post
So you are saying I wasted that unallocated space on a partition that need not be any larger, right? But it was the only adjacent option! Is it correct to expect that now that I extended that D partition I may not be able to do a factory restore if needed one day?
I gave you the steps earlier to use free Partition Wizard bootable CD to slide the Recov partition over to the far right of the HD which would swap the Unallocated to where you can use it in your WIn7 partition. If you had questions about doing this then you needed to ask back not proceed with doing something which everyone suggested not to.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Make your Recovery Disks and then you don't have to worry about deleting the Recovery partition or moving it to the end of the drive. There are no boot files on it.

If you decide to move it, use free Partition Wizard bootable CD which is tool we use to help hundreds of similar operations here. https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/93322-partition-wizard-use-bootable-cd.html

In this case, boot PW CD, rightclick Factory Recovery then Click/hold and slide the whole partition intact to the right end of the HD, click OK. Next rightclick Win7 partition and drag the left grey border all the way to the right to take up the space OK, Apply.
Or use it as a separate storage partition as Nighthawk suggests.

Either way, I would shrink the Recov partition by exactly as much space as you extended it to put it back to where it was.
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05 Sep 2010   #26
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

The first things now to look at before making any further changes to the partition scheme you have now would be 1)back everything up 2) get busy creating the set of recovery disks!

During the move over and/or resize of C if not going for a second D partition the partition table could end up being mush! You could lose the recovery partition as well as C. In fact someone just informed me about getting the giveaway of Easeus Partition Manager and going to shrink the C primary and the drive instead becoming a "Raw" volume!

(so much for giveaways I guess while that could still happen with any drive tool!)
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05 Sep 2010   #27
Alsenor

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
I gave you the steps earlier to use free Partition Wizard bootable CD to slide the Recov partition over to the far right of the HD which would swap the Unallocated to where you can use it in your WIn7 partition. If you had questions about doing this then you needed to ask back not proceed with doing something which everyone suggested not to.
Since several methods to deal with my question were suggested, I may have picked the wrong one. However, that is water under the bridge now.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Either way, I would shrink the Recov partition by exactly as much space as you extended it to put it back to where it was.
I don't remember the EXACT size it was in MB. Would it be safe to use the Partition Recovery Wizard in PW? And does it know how much to shrink it back?
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06 Sep 2010   #28
Alsenor

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk View Post
The first things now to look at before making any further changes to the partition scheme you have now would be 1)back everything up 2) get busy creating the set of recovery disks!
So I can toss out the old rescue CDs I have, right? I'll make a BU run now, and new rescue CDs.
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06 Sep 2010   #29
gregrocker

 

The Recovery partition was 11.08gb in first screenshot. If you extended it then I would shrink it back to the same exact size using the same utility you originally used to decrease possibility of files copying differently

Then if you want to slide it to the end of the HD study PW CD tutorial below and the use steps I gave:
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Partition Wizard : Use the Bootable CD
In this case, boot PW CD, rightclick Factory Recovery then Click/hold and slide the whole partition intact to the right end of the HD, click OK. Next rightclick Win7 partition and drag the left grey border all the way to the right to take up the space OK, Apply.
If you have any other questions please post back a screenshot of your full Disk Mgmt drive map along with them.

I would not throw out any disks, just label them carefully so you know exactly what they are and do. What "Rescue disks" do you have?
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06 Sep 2010   #30
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

If you have the factory recovery disks already there wouldn't be any need to create a new set except to have spares onhand in case any original disks are damaged or lost. Recovery partitions typically are small in size while the continued resizing could result in seeing it lost.

A look at the first screen on this thread however shows it as 11.08gb which sounds like it never saw any resizing but was simply moved over when first deciding to make room for an XP install on a second primary. I would simply move it back to it's original location.
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