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Windows 7: Multi Purpose PC - Your Opinions Please

04 Sep 2010   #1
thehappyman

Win 7 Ultimate x64
 
 
Multi Purpose PC - Your Opinions Please

I want to play some nice games (but I'm not a serious "gamer"), I do a lot of Photo work and manage photo databases which each contain over 50,000 very hi-res photos, I work a lot with music, do some CAD work, and then use the computer for all the other common things that most people do.
So I bought a new computer - my old computer with XP Pro died (had a 3.2 ghz overclocked Q6700 with 4 gig ram, GTX 880 SLI). I wanted something a little snappier
So what do you all think ???? I'm planing on having a blast (and I dont like slow computers). Your opinions please

New Computer
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Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit OS
Core I7 980X CPU overclocked to 3.73 Ghz (water cooled)
12 Gigabytes 1600 Mhz DDR3 triple channel ram
Single Nvidia GTX 480 Video Card
600 Gig Raid 0 10,000 rpm C Drive
Additional 7200 rpm data drives (computer holds up to 6 drives)
USB 2.0 and 3.0
Blu Ray Read/Write DVD/CD
30 inch Dell 3007WFP LCD Display @ 2500 x 1600 resolution
850 Watt Power Supply

Cheers Everybody


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04 Sep 2010   #2
Lomai

Win7 HP (x64)/Win7 Ultimate (x64)
 
 

Hi



Have not tried it yet but have you considered using SSD's for your OS drive? Or is capacity an issue for you?
And one last question - the mobo?

Regards
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04 Sep 2010   #3
Petey7

Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit
 
 

As long as your spending a $1000 on a 6-core CPU with hyperthreading, you are going to want an SSD. A HDD will be a major bottle-neck in that kind of set up.
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04 Sep 2010   #4
thehappyman

Win 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lomai View Post
Hi



Have not tried it yest but have you considered using SSD's for your OS drive? Or is capacity an issue for you?
And one last question - the mobo?

Regards
Not sure of the Mobo but it supports the X58 chipset (wont know until I get the PC but I'm sure it's a good mobo brand because its comming from a good company). Yes, I did look at Solid State Drives and I could have opted for one (at at good deal of additional cost). I have been told, by more than 1 source that as the solid state drive fills up that it's speed benefits drop very considerably. Whether this is true or not, I dont know, but after hearing it from more than 1 source I opted for the dual striping 10K drives. The Cost of even a 300 gig SSD is considerable - this pc has already dented my wallet a little. Thanks for your suggestion.
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04 Sep 2010   #5
thehappyman

Win 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Petey7 View Post
As long as your spending a $1000 on a 6-core CPU with hyperthreading, you are going to want an SSD. A HDD will be a major bottle-neck in that kind of set up.
Another vote for the SSD !!!!!!
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04 Sep 2010   #6
Vertex

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 Bit, Windows Developer Preview, Linux Mint 9 Gnome 32 Bit
 
 

I think what they were trying to say is that all of the hardware you want for your new PC is just top class but the hard disk you chose was just below that league.

You have Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit and some hardware like 12 GBs or RAM and the fastest CPU on Earth Core i7 980X CPU overclocked to 3.73 Ghz (water cooled), of course you would also want your hard disk to be advanced so better get an SSD instead so that all of them are top class. How's that???

I wish one day I could get a system as good or even half as good as this one you are planning to get one day.

Those specs are surely MORE than enough your needs.
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04 Sep 2010   #7
thehappyman

Win 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Vertex View Post
I think what they were trying to say is that all of the hardware you want for your new PC is just top class but the hard disk you chose was just below that league.

You have Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit and some hardware like 12 GBs or RAM and the fastest CPU on Earth Core i7 980X CPU overclocked to 3.73 Ghz (water cooled), of course you would also want your hard disk to be advanced so better get an SSD instead so that all of them are top class. How's that???

I wish one day I could get a system as good or even half as good as this one you are planning to get one day.

Those specs are surely MORE than enough your needs.
Thank you for the kind words and good explanation - Unfortunatley (although I cant wait to get it) the PC is already being "built", right now, and its too late for me to change the order at this time. It will arrive in about two weeks. I can, at a later date, order a Solid State C Drive, as you and others have suggested. This will become especially more viable as SSD capacities increase and prices drop. If I had ordered my system with a 250 gig SSD I think it would have cost me $1,000 more. So, as soon as prices drop a bit I will order one. I see more and more ads for SSD's all the time. Thank you again for the comments. I would still like to get to the bottom of the comments that were made to me (from more than 1 source) regarding the extreme degradation of performance in an SSD as it begins to fill up. Need to do some more research.
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04 Sep 2010   #8
Lomai

Win7 HP (x64)/Win7 Ultimate (x64)
 
 

Thanks and have fun with the new box
Here's an article that I had bookmarked earlier from one of the SF threads - The SSD Relapse: Understanding and Choosing the Best SSD (AnandTech)

Take care and regards
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04 Sep 2010   #9
thehappyman

Win 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lomai View Post
Thanks and have fun with the new box
Here's an article that I had bookmarked earlier from one of the SF threads - The SSD Relapse: Understanding and Choosing the Best SSD (AnandTech)

Take care and regards
Wow, thats quite an article on SSD's. It looks like the TRIM process prevents most of the Degradation that I heard about. Well, since I cant change my order at this stage of the game, and since SSD's are still pricey (I already emptied my piggy bank for this system) I guess I'll use the Raid 0 drives for a while until prices drop some more. And prices will drop as these drives become more popular (and larger). Then I'll get one. Some day in the future we will all look back and laugh about the days when computers used mechanical drives. I wont be suffering too much with a 10,000 rpm Raid 0 C drive. And since the raid 0 drive I am getting is 600 GB, I can keep one of my 50,000 picture photo library databases on the C drive along with the OS and all my other programs rather than keep the photos on a secondary drive which is what I would have to do if I had a 250 GB SSD. The average picture size is at least 5 megabytes. But I am sold on a SSD down the road.

Imagine running CHKDSK on an SSD (ha Ha)

Thanks a lot Lomal !!!!!
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05 Sep 2010   #10
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by thehappyman View Post
Wow, thats quite an article on SSD's. It looks like the TRIM process prevents most of the Degradation that I heard about.
Yes,that problem was way back in the first generation drives. A lot has changed since then.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by thehappyman View Post
I wont be suffering too much with a 10,000 rpm Raid 0 C drive.
You won't be suffering, but then again your random access speeds will be abysmal compared to an SSD. It's the low random access times and subsequent fast as all get out random I/O speeds that make the SSD's ideal for the OS.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by thehappyman View Post
And since the raid 0 drive I am getting is 600 GB, I can keep one of my 50,000 picture photo library databases on the C drive along with the OS and all my other programs rather than keep the photos on a secondary drive which is what I would have to do if I had a 250 GB SSD. The average picture size is at least 5 megabytes. But I am sold on a SSD down the road.
What would be the point of being able to store pictures on the SSD?? Seriously, you can only look through them so fast. I've got an 80GB SSD for my OS and applications..but my data sits on a mechanical storage drive. You want the SSD for it's ultra low access times and blistering fast random I/O speeds...which greatly benefit the OS. I'm just always taken aback by how many people want to hold off on purchasing an SSD drive until it's xxx big. These things are not ideal for storage...and won't be for quite a number of years.

I'm sure your new box will run great. But in all honesty, it would have been faster with a slower CPU, less RAM, etc....and an SSD drive. Just saying.
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