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Windows 7: Files that I have deleted keep coming back on their own!

22 Sep 2010   #11
Barneyboy48

Windows 7 Home Premium OEM
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bigmck View Post
Hi -- I think that you best forget Seagate. You have some guy that doesn't want to "stick his neck out" and say anything. Win 7 has a backup. Check it out here and this might be the way to go. Windows 7 Features: Backup and Restore
Hi BigMck,

I must admit I am still trying to understand the file structure with Windows 7. Having had a few days to look over it I realise there is something going on that may be connected with this and I would like to learn more about it. I am trying my hardest to plough through the book "Windows 7 - Inside Out", I suppose the answer must be in there somewhere, it's just getting to understand the lingo!

Is this problem I have got, all because the Seagate back-up s/w package is backing up both the Library files, (i.e. Documents, Public Documents, Music, Public Music, Pictures, Public Pictures and Videos, Public Videos) and the files in under my name as the user, (i.e. listed as Contacts, Desktop, Downloads etc. and My Documents, My Music, My Pictures and My Videos, blah, blah, blah)?

Am I confusing the situation by carrying out a complete housework overhaul in between scheduled back-ups? Or should I discard the original back-up and start a new back-up after such an exhausting exercise?

Also, do you know and can you tell me in simple terms how in Sam Hill does the system decide and select what goes in the My Documents and what goes in Public Documents?

If I can get my head around this I might start beginning to understand the problems I am facing with the Seagate back-up.

I have disabled the Seagate back-up for the time being. What I have done is run a seperate back-up using FBackup 4.4. Although it seems a bit more complicated during the wizard setup, it at least prevents you from picking certain folders for backup because it is repeating, (at least that's what it saying).

I have run the integral backup facility included with Windows 7, which is OK if you don't want to subsequently restore just one or two specific files. I can't see how you could do it but I haven't gone that deeply into it, (yet!).

Answers on a postcard please!


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22 Sep 2010   #12
Jacee
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1
 
 

Hi BarneyBoy ... see if "RecycleBinEX" works for permanent deletion and Seagate can't back up the deleted items.
RecycleBinEx - Enhanced Windows Recycle Bin Manager
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22 Sep 2010   #13
bigmck

Windows 7 Home Premium 32-Bit - Build 7600 SP1
 
 

If you are only backing up and not restoring, I don't see how the Seagate program could create the file again. Since I am not sure how the Seagate program works, I am running out of ideas. As I said before, I would forget about Seagate since it is causing so many problems for you. Let's us know what you find out. Thanks,
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23 Sep 2010   #14
karlsnooks

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
 
 

Barney Lad,

First I'd throw the Seagate software in the trash can.

Now if you are performing data backups, then I use SyncToy.
Download details: SyncToy 2.1

You will notice that download is from Microsoft. This is a flexible and reliable backup program when performing data backups.

If you are interesting in backing up your computer in case of a disaster, then you should seriously consider Win 7's Backup and Restore which is very sound, reliable and easy to use. I've used this to backup and to 100% restore my computers with nary a problem.
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23 Sep 2010   #15
Barneyboy48

Windows 7 Home Premium OEM
 
 

Hi BigMck and Chev65!

I must admit I am still trying to understand the file structure with Windows 7. Having had a few days to look over it I realise there is something more to this than meets the eye and I would like to learn more about it.

I am trying my hardest to plough through the book "Windows 7 - Inside Out", I suppose the answer must be in there somewhere, it's just getting to understand the lingo!

Do you think that this problem might be because the Seagate back-up s/w package is backing up both the Library files, (i.e. Documents, Public Documents, Music, Public Music, Pictures, Public Pictures and Videos, Public Videos) and the files in under my name as the user, (i.e. listed as Contacts, Desktop, Downloads etc. and My Documents, My Music, My Pictures and My Videos, blah, blah, blah)?

Am I confusing the situation by carrying out a complete housework overhaul in between scheduled back-ups? Or should I discard the original back-up and start a new back-up after such an exhausting exercise?

Also, do you know and can you tell me in simple terms how does the system decide and select what goes in the My Documents folder and what goes in Public Documents folder?

If I can get my head around the reasoning behind the file structure and the intentions behind the design, I might start beginning to understand the problems I am facing with the Seagate back-up.

I have disabled the Seagate back-up for the time being. What I have done is run a seperate back-up using FBackup 4.4. Although it seems a bit more complicated during the wizard setup, it at least prevents you from picking certain folders for backup because it is repeating, (at least that's what it saying).

I have run the integral backup facility included with Windows 7 as you have suggested, which is OK if you don't want to subsequently restore just one or two specific files. Perhaps it is possible, I can't see how you can do it, but I haven't gone that deeply into it, (yet!).

Answers on a postcard please!
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23 Sep 2010   #16
1Bowtie

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

You also might try running disk cleanup with all boxes checked after emptying the recycle bin. Read the boxes when you do disc cleanup and it will tell you whats needed and what's not
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23 Sep 2010   #17
Barneyboy48

Windows 7 Home Premium OEM
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by karlsnooks View Post
Barney Lad,

First I'd throw the Seagate software in the trash can.

Now if you are performing data backups, then I use SyncToy.
Download details: SyncToy 2.1

You will notice that download is from Microsoft. This is a flexible and reliable backup program when performing data backups.

If you are interesting in backing up your computer in case of a disaster, then you should seriously consider Win 7's Backup and Restore which is very sound, reliable and easy to use. I've used this to backup and to 100% restore my computers with nary a problem.
Hi Karlsnooks,

Welcome to the fray and thanks for your contribution.

I have only just picked up your post after sending in my latest post. It sounds as though you are extremely knowledgable and could help me through my confusion.

I have had no more comms with Seagate since the last email claiming it was a fault at my end - to be expected I suppose. I want to uninstall and delete the Seagate software and backups from my ext hard drive and my computer and try something else.

Am I correct in assuming that Windows 7 Backup and Restore is to be used only as complete system backup and not as a data backup whereby I can retrieve the odd file when I need to?

It took me a while but I have done it! I now have a 500GB external hard drive that is completely clear of everything.

Could I store both my data backup, (using say SyncToy), and a complete system backup, (as provided for by using Windows 7 Backup and Restore), i.e. would I have enough room, given my computer hard disk is 500GB also, (although it is nowhere near full)?

Having asked all that, could you shed some light on the directory/folder/file structure subject and the difference between the Library and the Personal Folders?

Have you any idea why MS decided that the way they have gone with the Library directories and the folders there in and the apparent repeat of all those storage areas/folders in the username directory area featured below it as you look at the tree structure in Windows Exporer? To what purpose would they have they gone down this route?

In the MS book, "Windows 7 Inside Out", it is recommended that you seperate the username directory to a seperate drive or volume, (say the D: drive) and make it so that the Library can reference or include those folders.

This is recommended for various reasons but mainly so that the O/S is seperate from user created data folders. The arguement against this, which was simply put to me last time I asked about it, is that if you are using seperate volumes on the same hard disk to store O/S and user data, if the hard disk goes down it takes everything with it anyway so what's the point.

I really need to learn more about this, but I don't want a migraine from information overload! I need it feeding a bit at a time!

Your help and anyone else willing to spend time explaining would be most gratefully appreciated!
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