for any MICROSOFT eyes RE:7

knowonw · 28 May 2009

After using 7 for a while I hope that Microsoft will work on a key features before the actual Official release

As much as I prefer XP over VISTA, I personally prefer VISTA over 7 and will NOT upgrade to the new system when my RC beta expires when it's designed to

I love the better customized control over the appearance in 7, VISTA has the AERO appearance it still is bland, 7 has solved this problem. Some thing's 7 is at this time you can NOT customize the Start/programs with the classic look as you could do up to VISTA, I understand it is the key ability with 7 and probably the premise built off of it's design is it's group programs functions. (Sorry, I have no idea what this is supposed to mean)

I personally would rather have the switch between windows function that you have ion VISTA where you can just scroll through the programs for what you need -- with 7 it groups all like programs into one tab & you have to hover over & look (Sorry, I have no idea what this is supposed to mean)

WELL, it's my own taste 7 personal preference & GOD hasn't commanded me yet to like things just bewcause some other people like certain things - things like & including VISTA at least you had more control over customizing for your own taste - also for me personally, unlike alot of people I have always preferred the 800 x 600 screen resolution BUT, with 7 you are set at default for 1024 X 768 which makes everything so small ( you can change to a larger resolution BUT, will make some things fuzzy)

BUT, 7 has also taken the ability to set your start menu to classic view which means unlike in classic view when you go to your programs it shows all your programs - with 7 you have to go to programs show all programs then category for program -- I love that 7 starts faster than VISTA, I love that you can customize the appearance better than VISTA - other than that I do NOT like 7 at all, after that I prefer the feel & function of VISTA

ALSO, if you need an e-mail reader such as OUTLOOK (express, etc) it does NOT come with one - you can download the Windows Live Essentials that comes with whats called a live Windows Mail lightly resembling the Windows mail program in VISTA but, lacking some form & function ALSO, must know that when using to get e-mail it does NOT automatically delete messages off the mail server after downloading MEANING, if you use this program to start receiving your e-mail - if, you should sign on using a different program like OUTLOOK (express, ETC type program) it will download ANY & all messages you may have previously downloaded using the Windows Live mail -- just put in a Windows mail program in 7 and also give us back the ability to use a classic views type of set up like at least in VISTA

the bottom line for me is I will for now anyway keep to VISTA, despite the long boot and having to use a program like Window Blinds from STARDOCK to give me a much better look in appearance then what you would normally get with VISTA - I just don't see anything improved in 7 or anything in 7 at this time to make me consider on pulling the trigger on doling out what I would guess will be somewhere in the $400 for a decent premium version of 7 when it becomes official & all of our betas & RC's start shutting down in the fall -- I personally think it sucks so far BUT, we'll see what or any changes they make in the final "OFFICIAL" relase of what will be Windows 7

YupYup · 28 May 2009

ENZO said:

Nice life story there, i respect your opinion, but beg to differ...

That is all.

Enzo.

I'll go with that since i got lost in the maze about a third of the way.

Uber Philf · 28 May 2009

haha, i almost did, but didnt take long to get back on track

Enzo.

tw33k · 28 May 2009

that was one the hardest things i ever had to read. dude, punctuation is important.

Blongs · 28 May 2009

Just goes to show you can't keep all the people happy all the time. I will dump Vista as soon as Windows 7 goes retail but everyone is entitled to their opinion and I respect that. I think anyone who prefers Vista will find themselves a minority on this forum but that's just my opinion.

tw33k · 28 May 2009

Blongs said:

Just goes to show you can't keep all the people happy all the time. I will dump Vista as soon as Windows 7 goes retail but everyone is entitled to their opinion and I respect that. I think anyone who prefers Vista will find themselves a minority on this forum but that's just my opinion.

i agree 100%. 7 is now my only OS and will remain that way.

PhreePhly · 28 May 2009

I am going to add some paragraphs. The OP has some interesting points. While i don't agree with most of them, I think by making this easier to read, more folks can comment.

knowonw said:

After using 7 for a while I hope that Microsoft will work on a key features before the actual Official release

As much as I prefer XP over VISTA, I personally prefer VISTA over 7 and will NOT upgrade to the new system when my RC beta expires when it's designed to

I love the better customized control over the appearance in 7, VISTA has the AERO appearance it still is bland, 7 has solved this problem. Some thing's 7 is at this time you can NOT customize the Start/programs with the classic look as you could do up to VISTA, I understand it is the key ability with 7 and probably the premise built off of it's design is it's group programs functions. (Sorry, I have no idea what this is supposed to mean)

I personally would rather have the switch between windows function that you have ion VISTA where you can just scroll through the programs for what you need -- with 7 it groups all like programs into one tab & you have to hover over & look (Sorry, I have no idea what this is supposed to mean)

WELL, it's my own taste 7 personal preference & GOD hasn't commanded me yet to like things just bewcause some other people like certain things - things like & including VISTA at least you had more control over customizing for your own taste - also for me personally, unlike alot of people I have always preferred the 800 x 600 screen resolution BUT, with 7 you are set at default for 1024 X 768 which makes everything so small ( you can change to a larger resolution BUT, will make some things fuzzy)

BUT, 7 has also taken the ability to set your start menu to classic view which means unlike in classic view when you go to your programs it shows all your programs - with 7 you have to go to programs show all programs then category for program -- I love that 7 starts faster than VISTA, I love that you can customize the appearance better than VISTA - other than that I do NOT like 7 at all, after that I prefer the feel & function of VISTA

ALSO, if you need an e-mail reader such as OUTLOOK (express, etc) it does NOT come with one - you can download the Windows Live Essentials that comes with whats called a live Windows Mail lightly resembling the Windows mail program in VISTA but, lacking some form & function ALSO, must know that when using to get e-mail it does NOT automatically delete messages off the mail server after downloading MEANING, if you use this program to start receiving your e-mail - if, you should sign on using a different program like OUTLOOK (express, ETC type program) it will download ANY & all messages you may have previously downloaded using the Windows Live mail -- just put in a Windows mail program in 7 and also give us back the ability to use a classic views type of set up like at least in VISTA

the bottom line for me is I will for now anyway keep to VISTA, despite the long boot and having to use a program like Window Blinds from STARDOCK to give me a much better look in appearance then what you would normally get with VISTA - I just don't see anything improved in 7 or anything in 7 at this time to make me consider on pulling the trigger on doling out what I would guess will be somewhere in the $400 for a decent premium version of 7 when it becomes official & all of our betas & RC's start shutting down in the fall -- I personally think it sucks so far BUT, we'll see what or any changes they make in the final "OFFICIAL" relase of what will be Windows 7

Well, all I can say is different strokes for different folks. I am glad classic is gone. How long are we going to hold onto a dated UI?

As far as screen resolution goes, other than a netbook, what monitor uses 800x600? If you are using a 800 x 600 monitor, then that resolution should look just fine. If you are trying to force 800 x 600 onto a LCD which has a different native resolution, then yes, your desktop will look fuzzy, but this is a function of the monitor, not Windows.

I'm also glad that MS has separated out the e-mail client. By not tying the client to the OS, the mail client can be updated on a totally different schedule than that of the OS. The Windows Live Client does everything Windows mail does and I find the interface much cleaner.

If Vista is working for you, then stick with it. Do understand the newer iterations of Windows (i.e. Windows 8) will branch off of Win 7 and not Vista, so when you make that move, you will need to learn the current Aero GUI.

PhreePhly

Uber Philf · 28 May 2009

+1 to that, and thanks for making it easier for us to read :P

Enzo.

andych · 28 May 2009

A quick work on Windows Mail.....I am sure Microsoft would have preferred to include it as well, however Anti-Trust issues with EU have forced their hand, rather than have different versions for other parts of the world it is easier to have the Windows Live Mail application as a separate download.

Personally....I never used it....I have my copy of Office and I use Outlook for the extra features etc.

Zagadka · 28 May 2009

I have always preferred the 800 x 600 screen resolution BUT, with 7 you are set at default for 1024 X 768

lmao, what the hell is this, 1998?

ALSO, must know that when using to get e-mail it does NOT automatically delete messages off the mail server after downloading MEANING, if you use this program to start receiving your e-mail - if, you should sign on using a different program like OUTLOOK (express, ETC type program) it will download ANY & all messages ... just put in a Windows mail program in 7 and also give us back the ability to use a classic views type of set up like at least in VISTA

Um, that is how all mail clients work. Windows is not a mail client. If you install Thunderbird or another program, you still have to set up the account to not delete from the server...

As for not including a client... there are like 3 MS mail clients, and people spend more time bitching about security loopholes anyway.

As for the start menu thing... One extra click is a product killer?

despite the long boot and having to use a program like Window Blinds from STARDOCK to give me a much better look in appearance

........... you want high-quality themes through third party vendors on an 800x600 screen?

I just don't see anything improved in 7

... I have no idea how to begin to reply to this.