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Windows 7: Ubuntu or Windows 7

28 Sep 2010   #21
mickey megabyte

ultimate 64 sp1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
DSL is 50MB....
..and it looks like crap.

my current lightweight favourite distro is slitaz, only 30MB and looks and feels modern. it's worked 'out-of-the-box' including wifi on every machine i've tried it on and boots real quick, especially off a usb thumb drive.

i only use it as a rescue disk to retrieve files from and re-partition dead windows boxes, but it can be used as a desktop os for real old pcs with limited resources by adding a bit of software.

try it, you'll be surprised.


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28 Sep 2010   #22
madtownidiot

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by wysiwyg View Post

Why would people want to spend their time doing research, when what they want is a system to install, that is totally user friendly, with a full range of applications and any game they want to play,

For a person who has XP (archaic) Several Linux versions, and also has both versions of 7 Pro, come on be honest the 7's are head and shoulders above the others.

If you believe otherwise then you're well named.
You're partially correct. Most people do want a user friendly application that's easy to install and comes with a full range of applications. My username would be more fitting to you if you think that doesn't apply to linux.. in fact Ultimate Edition comes with dozens of applications you'd have to pay for in Windows, is free, and can be installed from a flash drive in about 20 minutes..

However,
Some people like the ability to compile a fully customized operating system that only runs the processes they want to run, doesn't phone home every few days or hours to make sure the OS that's installed hasn't been altered in any way, that doesn't need an anti-virus, anti-malware and constant maintenance to keep running, that doesn't constantly remind you of things you already know. Some people like the ability to change the every feature on the desktop, or have several different desktops at once, all different, running from a single machine. Almost everything the average user wants a computer for can be accomplished in linux running booted into memory from a 1GB flash drive.. even a computer that has no working HDD. To be honest, windows 7 is a great operating system, but it isn't so freakin great that all other operating systems should be eliminated. And if there are no games available for Linux, it's only because there's no money in developing them.

Computer wise, limiting yourself to a single operating system is just as ignorant as only learning to speak a single language.
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28 Sep 2010   #23
mr pc

Windows 7
 
 

Linux (Ubuntu) gave me the opportunity to turn a rather useful Compaq Presario with a dreadfully destroyed version of XP into a new machine - granted the hardware isn't something to brag about but Ubuntu runs excellent on it.

This opportunity exposed me to the world of Linux and I've been rather curious of the different types and styles of distros - some work and others not so much, but still it's awesome to see such variety and at no cost.

Now I may be entranced with the workings of Linux I am by no means impressed with some of the programs running on it, especially the graphics alternatives - having worked on Adobe it's hard to adjust to alternatives. Open Office's very close clone of MS Office is nice though.

Now if I can figure out Samba or get these machines (Win7 home/Lucid Lynx) networked all will be fine.
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28 Sep 2010   #24
andrewjanderson

Windows 7 Professional x64 | Ubuntu 10.04 x64
 
 

I have worked with Windows mainly since Windows 98 SE, and Windows 7 is the best one I've used yet. I would also say that it is not the only OS that should be used, as there are different needs for different people.

I have two HDDs in my desktop, with Windows 7 Professional x64 on the larger main drive, and Ubuntu 10.04 x64 on the 80GB drive. I like to use and explore the different options of Ubuntu while employing full use of hardware, but I do not want to pick just one OS or the other. That's one great thing about Ubuntu, you can install it along with Windows 7 at no extra cost.

In response to the OP on this question, in my experience Ubuntu has always run lighter and about as fast, if not faster, than Windows 7. I would encourage you to try Ubuntu out to see if you like the way it works, before you make the decision to install it even if it is faster.

Even if the OS is faster, if it doesn't do what you want, or doesn't work right on your system without some tweaking, don't use it.
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28 Sep 2010   #25
Al Fairclough

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

I have used Linux for many years and watched it evolve into the fine OS it is today. That said, I switched my entire box over to Windows 7, because it feels 'snappier' and now with IE9, it has all I can ask for. The bottom line is that MS has finally come out with an OS that suits my needs and is quite polished. As for Ubuntu 10.04, I still have the disk in my drawer and haven't tossed it yet. I wonder what that means?
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29 Sep 2010   #26
wysiwyg

Vista Ultimate 32 bit, Win 7 Pro 32 bit, Win 7 Pro 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by madtownidiot View Post
Some people like the ability to compile a fully customized operating system that only runs the processes they want to run, doesn't phone home every few days or hours to make sure the OS that's installed hasn't been altered in any way, that doesn't need an anti-virus, anti-malware and constant maintenance to keep running, that doesn't constantly remind you of things you already know. Some people like the ability to change the every feature on the desktop, or have several different desktops at once, all different, running from a single machine. Almost everything the average user wants a computer for can be accomplished in linux running booted into memory from a 1GB flash drive.. even a computer that has no working HDD. To be honest, windows 7 is a great operating system, but it isn't so freakin great that all other operating systems should be eliminated. And if there are no games available for Linux, it's only because there's no money in developing them.

Computer wise, limiting yourself to a single operating system is just as ignorant as only learning to speak a single language.
Some people, by that you mean a few geeks run Linux, all that rubbish about phoning home, and not needing AV etc, you know as well as I do why it isn't necessary, its a thing thats not worth the hackers time because so few people use it.

There are even more Macs than Linux and they only have a small share of the market, be honest if Linux was so good it would be up there alongside Windows competing for a bigger market share, people aren't stupid or ignorant to know whats good, and what isn't,

Your comment about one system and one language shows your own foolishness, I reckon the majority of the worlds peoples only speak one language, and have no wish to learn another and you reckon thats ignorance, and all the people that use one system are ignorant as well,

You find a good system and stick to it till something better comes along,

I wonder why you have more than one system its tells me you aren't sure what you want, me I've seen all the others and decided this is the best,
and that is the only criterion, no ifs, no buts.

Oh and if you wonder about the Vista, thats purely for the oddments that don't run on Seven, and that is down to the manufacturers who won't upgrade to Seven.

Anyway Vista is nearly as good as Seven but not quite.
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29 Sep 2010   #27
Lemur

Systems 1 and 2: Windows 7 Enterprise x64, Win 8 Developer
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mickey megabyte View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
DSL is 50MB....
..and it looks like crap.

my current lightweight favourite distro is slitaz, only 30MB and looks and feels modern. it's worked 'out-of-the-box' including wifi on every machine i've tried it on and boots real quick, especially off a usb thumb drive.

i only use it as a rescue disk to retrieve files from and re-partition dead windows boxes, but it can be used as a desktop os for real old pcs with limited resources by adding a bit of software.

try it, you'll be surprised.
Very cool. Actually never used DSL.
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29 Sep 2010   #28
deepakumar

windows 7 Ultimate x86
 
 

Well i can say what few already said there are few pros & cons:
Cost: Windows 7 is paid will Linux based OS are FREEEEEEE
Performance: Windows 7 is little unstable as compared to Ubuntu
RAM usage: Well ofcourse Windows 7 use more of system resources as compared to Ubuntu
Security: I guess most of people who've used both will agree on 1 thing Linux based OS are less vrius pron as compared to our lovely & sweet Windows
User friendly: Of course this is biggest Plus point for Windows OS that they are user friendly while Linux based OS are meant for serious guyzzzzz
Games:Another plus for Windows bcz all games in the world are Windows based but NONE for Linux or Ubuntu (thats my SAD part, bcz i love some of those games)
& the list goes ON......but again its on 1s own personal use on the basis of which 1 should select....my personal view i would rate Windows 7 9.2/10 & Ubuntu/Backtrack 9.5/10......
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29 Sep 2010   #29
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by wysiwyg View Post
Some people, by that you mean a few geeks run Linux, all that rubbish about phoning home, and not needing AV etc, you know as well as I do why it isn't necessary, its a thing thats not worth the hackers time because so few people use it.
Well, that is one way to look at it. Another is that Linux comes from the Unix world which was a multi-user operating system since the very beginning. Therefore, for well over 40 years now, they have had a system were day-to-day accounts run as limited users and admin rights are only used when necessary. In addition, many services and such run with very limited access and chrooted environments....so even if compromised, don't have much access to the rest of the system. Windows on the other hand started as a single user environment where the person is admin and has full control. It's been that way through XP and only started changing somewhat with Vista and now Windows 7. They don't have the 40+ years of experience with refining this process.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by wysiwyg View Post
be honest if Linux was so good it would be up there alongside Windows competing for a bigger market share, people aren't stupid or ignorant to know whats good, and what isn't,
The thing with the Linux environment is that there isn't just 1 single product like we have with Windows. It's all about freedoms and customizations and getting what you need. There are thousands of different distros available each with their own little niche. Thus, it doesn't necessarily lend itself to a market where mass market workstations would ship with a particular distribution of Linux installed.

I'm no fool...i know that we live in a Windows world. But my experience doesn't say that Linux isn't good as you have said above. I honestly don't think I would ever really want Linux as a desktop for mass market as compromises and standards would have to be implemented which couldn't be modified and that would go against the whole principal of Linux based operating systems in the first place.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by wysiwyg View Post
I wonder why you have more than one system its tells me you aren't sure what you want, me I've seen all the others and decided this is the best, and that is the only criterion, no ifs, no buts.
I have multiple systems (physical), because I have additional people in my household and have no interest in having to share the computer time with everybody else.

For my kids, to surf the web and play online games at Nickjr.com...Windows 7 to me isn't the best choice because I have to pay nearly $200 for a copy of Windows 7 home premium. So instead, I can buy a bunch of low-end to middle of the road hardware on NewEgg, install Linux for free and they can have a solid computer that is almost impervious to any of the web dangers for a very small price.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by wysiwyg View Post
Oh and if you wonder about the Vista, thats purely for the oddments that don't run on Seven, and that is down to the manufacturers who won't upgrade to Seven.
My wife has a laptop that runs Vista and it works pretty much just fine. I see no reason whatsoever to spend any money to upgrade that box to Windows 7.

So, as you can see from my post..while I think that Windows 7 is great and have been running it since Beta on my personal workstation...and I run it on my laptop and desktop at work...there are other places where I choose to not run it because it doesn't make any financial sense to do so. So, in my base....Windows 7 isn't a hands down winner. It all depends upon need.

Anyway Vista is nearly as good as Seven but not quite.[/QUOTE]
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29 Sep 2010   #30
deepakumar

windows 7 Ultimate x86
 
 

@ pparks1
i agree with you on most of info what you mentioned like upgrading to Win 7 on your wife's lappi since its working fine & having Linux on your machine so kids can play online games...will add one more thing Windows believes in Marketing then anything like wise is Intel will Linux & AMD are silent palyer in real sense & still they are running in my two desktop & 2 laptop for the last 8 years....
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