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Windows 7: Making my Win7 really fast

18 Oct 2010   #111
HannibalUK

WINDOWS 7 ULTIMATE X64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
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The reason I said it wasn't a benchmark, is that it isn't very accurate at all in determining a system's performance. If you read some other forums, like the [H]ardForums, you'll find plenty of threads mocking the tool overall. We've done some tests over there, and have been able to get differing scores just be rerunning the test. It was created to serve a purpose for the non-tech savvy community, but unfortunately, I have yet to see a game or app on a retail shelf use the scoring system.

You really can't take a look at your WEI score and use that as a basis for upgrading your computer. You could build identical systems, and get differing results as well. Besides, you can easily make your computer score 7.9s across the board.

It's only real function is making sure the system is aware of it's capabilities, so you an enable Aero.
My opinion about the WEI bites attitude is people took/take it wrong. It was never meant to be a "benchmarking" tool. And quite a few people take it to mean that. Show Us Your WEI (2). If people understood it better, there wouldn't be such high "mocking"

Bottom line.... If you want to benchmark your system.... WEI isn't it. If you want to compare two systems.... WEI is a quick way to "visually" do so.

Anyway I'm getting off the subject. Sorry.
Thanks for the info!


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18 Oct 2010   #112
DeaconFrost

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Keiichi25 View Post
I know, for instance, some games Post-Vista are using the WEI as a means to say, "Your computer needs to be at this level to handle it."
I haven't seen any games yet, but that's great news. If software companies starting using this tool, I'd start feeling like it had more of a purpose.
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18 Oct 2010   #113
Keiichi25

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 and Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Keiichi25 View Post
I know, for instance, some games Post-Vista are using the WEI as a means to say, "Your computer needs to be at this level to handle it."
I haven't seen any games yet, but that's great news. If software companies starting using this tool, I'd start feeling like it had more of a purpose.
Prime example I have seen so far is with Halo 2 (If you install it, look in the games and click on it, you will a section on the right showing things like ESRB rating, and a section for WEI Recommended. I also saw this for Dragon's Age Origins.
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18 Oct 2010   #114
DeaconFrost

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Ah, I see what you mean. I've seen that in Games Explorer before. I meant that the retail packaging would have listings, so you could pick up the game in a store and know if it would run on your system or not.
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18 Oct 2010   #115
Keiichi25

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 and Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
Ah, I see what you mean. I've seen that in Games Explorer before. I meant that the retail packaging would have listings, so you could pick up the game in a store and know if it would run on your system or not.
Don't think they have done that quite just yet... Mostly cause of so many XP machines out there and the complete lack of 'WEI' in XP at this time. However, once XP goes completely bye bye and Windows 7 becomes the 'standard' overall, they might just start doing that. Right now, with XP and Vista, they aren't going to use a new standard quite yet until everyone uses it.

I would, however, believe that the WEI would be a word of mouth type thing, as again, most people will go, "I saw this game on so and so's computer... I wonder if I can run it on mine."
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18 Oct 2010   #116
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

WEI Game score recommendations (for games I have installed).....

- Borderlands - Recommended...4.0, Required...5.0
- Dragon Age: Origins - Recommended...4.0, Required...5.0
- Mass Effect (released in 2008) - Recommended...4.0, Required...5.0

My current rating is 5.9 due to my mechanical HD score, otherwise my lowest 7 score is 7.6
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18 Oct 2010   #117
DeaconFrost

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Keiichi25 View Post
Don't think they have done that quite just yet... Mostly cause of so many XP machines out there and the complete lack of 'WEI' in XP at this time.
It was supposed to be implemented to coincide with Vista's release to the public, as part of the huge Games For Windows initiative. We did get the support that to achieve Games For Windows status, a game would need to work on both OS platforms, and support the Xbox 360 controller, so it wasn't a total wash.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
WEI Game score recommendations (for games I have installed).....

- Borderlands - Recommended...4.0, Required...5.0
- Dragon Age: Origins - Recommended...4.0, Required...5.0
- Mass Effect (released in 2008) - Recommended...4.0, Required...5.0

My current rating is 5.9 due to my mechanical HD score, otherwise my lowest 7 score is 7.6
Just out of curiosity, are those scores coming from a game box, or after you've installed them?
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18 Oct 2010   #118
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

After the games are installed.

Making my Win7 really fast-wei-game-score.jpg

Never noticed a score on the box itself. In fact looking at the physical box of Borderlands reveals no such WEI score requirement.

Here's Mass Effect.....

Making my Win7 really fast-mass-effect-wei-score.jpg


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18 Oct 2010   #119
DeaconFrost

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

I expected to see that info in Games Explorer, but you've already purchased the game...what if your system couldn't handle it? The boxes were supposed to contain the minimum requirements, so consumers would know ahead of time.
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18 Oct 2010   #120
sygnus21

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
I expected to see that info in Games Explorer, but you've already purchased the game...what if your system couldn't handle it? The boxes were supposed to contain the minimum requirements, so consumers would know ahead of time.
Not sure what you mean, but the boxes do contain minimum system requirements, as well as "recommended" system requirements, it just doesn't mention a "WEI" score requirement.

I suppose Microsoft would like to see this as well....

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You can use the base score to confidently buy programs and other software that are matched to your computer's base score. For example, if your computer has a base score of 3.3, then you can confidently purchase any software designed for this version of Windows that requires a computer with a base score of 3 or lower.
But as of now I'm not aware of any software company, even Microsoft, listing a "minimum" WEI score requirement on it's software. It might be a goal but....
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