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Windows 7: Making my Win7 really fast

12 Oct 2010   #51
BDani

Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

So should I install comodo?


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12 Oct 2010   #52
DeaconFrost

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

That's really up to you. I have never installed a third party firewall, and never saw a point to one, to be honest. With each new version of Windows, the built-in firewall got better and better, and when I add in the fact I have a firewall built in to my router (they all do), I don't think there's much of a reason for one, unless you really feel like analyzing all traffic that goes in and out in very distinct detail. I'd rather spend my time using my computer than doing that....but to each his own. There are tools out there to give you similar details for the Windows firewall, if that's what you are after.
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12 Oct 2010   #53
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
I don't think there's much of a reason for one, unless you really feel like analyzing all traffic that goes in and out in very distinct detail.
I am in the same boat as you are. Compared to the overall bandwidth that I have, the traffic generated by tools phoning home is immeasurably small. If my cheapo printer wants to report that I only printing 3 sheets of paper last month, I simply don't care if they know.
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12 Oct 2010   #54
deepakumar

windows 7 Ultimate x86
 
 

Rightly said Maxx my friend Comodo Firewall gives more control to the user & let him/her to keep a good watch on the in-out traffic....With Windows Firewall the bad experience i had was when it downloaded Hell lot of updates & then it went hay waya...then i have to turn it off & with Comodo i completed 4 years & never had a problem...
But Yes its 1s own take whether they wanna go with Windows or Comodo firewall the purpose remains the same to be safe & protected...
@ deconfrost my friend i gotta agree with u as well if 1 is sitting behind a router firewall then don't need a real 3rd party firewall until 1 really wanna keep a day-night watch on the traffic...nice take buddy...
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12 Oct 2010   #55
BDani

Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

So I guess I wont install.
Not only because I am protected by the router but also I am not that of an expert who can analyze traffic.
Would be better to keep my PC as it is.

But I still wanna figure out how do peaple use so little memory of RAM... I use 1GB automaticly when I start Windows.
Probably because the requirement's are 1GB to install this OS?
I dont know...

I think I said that but my English knida sucks so if you did'nt understand somthing I said, please let me know
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12 Oct 2010   #56
DeaconFrost

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by BDani View Post
I think I said that but my English knida sucks so if you did'nt understand somthing I said, please let me know
I'm understanding you just fine!
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by BDani View Post
But I still wanna figure out how do peaple use so little memory of RAM... I use 1GB automaticly when I start Windows.
Probably because the requirement's are 1GB to install this OS?
Maybe this is part of a language breakdown, who knows. Break your ideas of what the requirements are and what is in use. Those two aren't related at all.

As I mentioned before, you also need to forget the old ways of XP where lower memory usage was good. Windows 7 uses more memory, but it uses it effectively by indexing, caching, SuperFetch, etc. Using 1 GB at boot seems very normal to me, so I'm not sure why you are worrying about it so much.

You paid for the memory in your computer, so be happy that you finally have an OS that is designed to use it, and use it well. I once saw a forum poster say that if you don't want your memory to be used, pull it out of your computer and put it on your desk.
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12 Oct 2010   #57
deepakumar

windows 7 Ultimate x86
 
 

Hahahahaha Nice DeaconFrost ""if you don't want your memory to be used, pull it out of your computer and put it on your desk""

@bDani i guess you should relax & actually think more with Windows7 on your mind only i got only 2Gb my OS utilize it accordingly & it does the same for you as well since you got 4Gb RAM & 25-30% of it utilized giving the best then i guess u r the happy man at the end of the day...
As DeaconFrost mentioned indexing a great feature of Win7 if you want you can disable as well to get few MB of RAM...
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12 Oct 2010   #58
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by BDani View Post
But I still wanna figure out how do peaple use so little memory of RAM... I use 1GB automaticly when I start Windows.
There are some who are very particular about exactly how much RAM is being used, how many processes are running and exactly what traffic is going into and out of the box. There is nothing wrong with this view, but it's not for everyone.

I've done some rather thorough testing of Windows 7 by default and then by performing handfuls of tweaks and shutting off services, etc. I'll be honest, the time savings is often in the 1/2 second range (and that could be a lazy finger issue with me hitting stop on the stopwatch) at most and often times after enough tweaking is actually slower than when I started. Sure, at the end of the day, you will have a fewer # of services, and potentially a slightly smaller amount of RAM being used...but if it doesn't equate to a measurable performance increase....what is the actual value?
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12 Oct 2010   #59
Keiichi25

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 and Home Premium x64
 
 

To be honest, determining what is 'eating' a fair chunk of your memory is relative to the programs you have and the amount of memory you have in your system.

The OS is going to virtualize part of it based on the available memory your system has in general.

Unless you are really in a situation where you need to reduce the amount of disk swapping going on, such as needing to use Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator at the same time or need performance more than functionality, you don't need to worry about the memory as much.

The one thing I know from experience with Windows XP given the 32 bit mem limitation is that I would hit near full memory just leaving a lot of programs running, mostly database like applications like a Feedreader, Outlook and Curse Client because of the inherent design of not properly freeing up memory allocations, most specifically Feedreader and Curse Client because they are actively checking for more stuff, where as Outlook is an MS product and most MS products tend to be coded poorly for some functions.

The thing to note is that most of the stuff in the system tray, if it doesn't serve a practical purpose for you, it is usually a fluff program you might not need and should be removed if you are THAT worried about memory. Avoid some of the companion software with HP products as that is fluff you probably won't use for the most part or rarely turn on at all. There will be items in the System tray that are MS related that you will never really be able to get rid of, like the Action Center, perhaps, Windows Defender if you haven't gotten another AV system that you prefer over the Windows provided one.

You can profile or look at the various programs running, but without knowing what you are looking for, you will do more damage to yourself trying to kill them off, but in the end the only thing that eats up memory in general is whatever programs you install and leave running. This also includes Web Browsers and the like.
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12 Oct 2010   #60
Joan Archer

Windows 10 64bit/Windows 10 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by BDani View Post
Just cause I dont trust MSE enough I use SAS as real-time protection too.
MB is on desktop so when I'll need to scan I will use it.
Can I just point out, I looked but no one has picked it up, SuperAntiSpyware is a Spy/Malware program not an anti-virus one and is perfectly OK to run in real-time alongside MSE which is an anti-virus program but also catches spy/malware.

I use MSE with the Windows Firewall behind a router, I also have the paid version of MalwareBytes running in real-time, they all work very well together, plus I'm running the IE9 beta and according to Secunia PSI that is a secure browser.
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