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  1. Posts : 212
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       #11

    Hey...by the way...I can still actually boot into my PC....just not cold boot into it. If I unplug hd cables and replug in...it will boot and when booted it runs perfectly...it's sharp and responsive and awesome...

    Anyway...I'll be home in hmmm....6 damn hours...maybe 8

    So I can't do anything til then...but I....will........be back

    :)
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  2. Posts : 6,885
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
       #12

    Before having to create a crashes thread, let me try a few things:

    You mentioned that when you unplug, then replug in the HDD SATA cables, it works properly. What happens if you unplug and swap cables around? Same problem (I would expect so)?
    If that does nothing, hit whatever key to boot into BIOS. Check the boot order settings. If you have no floppy drive, remove that option. Move CD to 2nd choice after boot HDD. Any effect?

    If all those are no, does your MOBO have an IDE port? If so, and you are not using it, disable it. If not, then its not an issue.

    Is all of your hardware compatible? Is this a custom build or a prebuilt?

    ~Lordbob
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  3. Posts : 212
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       #13

    Lordbob75 said:
    Before having to create a crashes thread, let me try a few things:

    You mentioned that when you unplug, then replug in the HDD SATA cables, it works properly. What happens if you unplug and swap cables around? Same problem (I would expect so)?
    If that does nothing, hit whatever key to boot into BIOS. Check the boot order settings. If you have no floppy drive, remove that option. Move CD to 2nd choice after boot HDD. Any effect?

    If all those are no, does your MOBO have an IDE port? If so, and you are not using it, disable it. If not, then its not an issue.

    Is all of your hardware compatible? Is this a custom build or a prebuilt?

    ~Lordbob
    - I haven't tried swapping the cables around yet...or changing cables
    - No floppy drive...not sure if I have that disabled. Will check
    - Will look into moving CD to 2nd choice after boot
    - I think my mobo has an ide port...as my CD drive connects by ide right? I'm pretty sure it does. Yes it does...just checked online
    - I'm sure my hardware is compatible...it is custom built...but all the parts were recommended to work together based on research I did.

    I just don't understand. It is something to do with cold boot...that cold boot will hang the PC...but once I do actually boot on the PC runs flawlessly. What is snagging that cold boot!??
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  4. Posts : 1,127
    Win7U 64 RTM
       #14

    If I can add to what Lordbob has said:

    I would also try disconnecting the optical drive, followed by the 2nd HD.

    James
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  5. Posts : 212
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
    Thread Starter
       #15

    Yes sure, I will do those things too.

    My optical drive is a bit old...couple of years...I considered that it may be a problem.

    Also...just before I left for work today I installed the latest video card drivers...I thought maybe that had something to do with it too.

    Anyway...
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  6. Posts : 12,177
    Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
       #16

    You have received very good trouble shooting advice already.

    Have you tried any of them?
    Please confirm what steps you have done and specify the ones you have not done.

    Cold boot issues can be caused by software, drivers, settings and/or hardware.
    This is a difficult problem to troubleshoot, it's similar to an intermittent electrical fault, it may take several tests run repeatedly to find the cause.

    If you're having the same or worse issues with the Beta BIOS I would recommend to go back to the last stable BIOS.
    Beta BIOS are sometimes not full versions and may add other instability issues to your current problems.

    A good place to start is to follow all the steps suggested by Greg in post #2. Also Carl's BSOD log files, he can analyze them while you're testing hardware.

    For the Memtest86+ tests I would follow this tutorial:

    Be sure to follow the steps in Part 3, this will test the RAM cards and the motherboard slots.
    It is possible for all three RAM cards to pass, then when run with one card it can fail. Number of RAM cards assuming 3x2GB.
    It is also possible that it will pass several times and then fail.
    You should also run memtest86+ under cold boot conditions. Run it from USB memory stick if possible, or from CD, at first startup. This can eliminate the possible settings and/or software probable causes.

    There definitely are several possible causes but, have seen this resolved by adjusting RAM settings or running new RAM, by either testing with different RAM cards or RMA'ing the RAM.

    Again, suggest you start from Greg's post #2, and Carl's post #10.


    Can you download CPUZ and post a snip of the CPU, Mainboard, Memory, and SPD tabs.
    This will give us some information on your system and hopefully some clues for us to continue.

    For posting the information , enter 'Snipping tool' in the Start button > Search box, hit enter. Select the area you want to post and save to a convenient place.
    How to Post a Screenshot in Seven Forums


    Have you been checking your temperatures?

    Use Speed Fan or Real Temp , run one of these and check the CPU temps when at idle, under load and/or testing.
    Let us know the minimum and maximum temps you get.

    Let us know the progress.
    If you're methodical and let us know the results from each step, this will help us to resolve your issues.
    Last edited by Dave76; 13 Oct 2010 at 05:41.
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  7. Posts : 212
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    Thread Starter
       #17

    I'll do all of those things tonight...thanks for your help and suggestions
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  8. Posts : 12,177
    Windows 7 Ult x64 - SP1/ Windows 8 Pro x64
       #18

    Your welcome, this will likely take a lot of hardware testing to find the solution. Keep good notes and we'll get to the cause.
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  9. Posts : 212
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       #19

    I have started to do all of the things advised....from another forum someone has advised me to run Windows SDK bug checking software. My crash dumps...from the last 3 or so days are as follows. It doesn't mean much to me...but to someone else it could mean something. I'll post it here and continue troubleshooting...

    Edit: info can be found here:
    https://www.sevenforums.com/crashes-d...tem-files.html
    Last edited by hello people; 13 Oct 2010 at 17:15.
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  10. Posts : 6,885
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
       #20

    Can you edit your last post and remove that MASSIVE block of text (or at least put it in code brackets) and just upload the dmp files here?

    ~Lordbob
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