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Windows 7: Need some advice...

22 Oct 2010   #11
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Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) Build 7601
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by severedsolo View Post
Windows is seeing all 4GB of Ram, "Hardware Reserved" is Ram which has been allocated to a piece of hardware (probably a graphics card)

Basically, get a graphics card with its own memory, or you the most you will be able to get is 3.25.

You can't disable it without installing a new card. I assume its on board graphics, as most proper GPU's have their own Ram. Sorry I can't be more help.

Edit: Just to show you how its working:
Total Ram - 4Gb or 4096MB (which Windows can see)
Hardware allocated Ram - 769 MB (probably graphics card)
4096-769 = 3327MB or about 3.25GB which is usable.
Thanks for the information. I hope that this will be reversed when I am in 64-bit mode.


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22 Oct 2010   #12
severedsolo

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

I'm sorry to tell you that it won't be. Read my post again

Your Graphics Controller (probably) has told the BIOS and Windows that it wants 769MB of RAM. Therefore, that Ram will ALWAYS be allocated to that hardware. 64 bit will not help you in this instance.

The only thing 64 Bit will do is help you break the "4GB" barrier. So if you put 5GB of Ram into your machine, you will have 4.25GB available (after Hardware Reserved)

Under 32 bit, Windows won't see the extra 1GB because of address limitations, so you will still only have 3.25 available, even if you had 5GB installed.

The only way to reclaim the "lost" Ram thats being swallowed by Hardware Reserved is to install a Dedicated Graphics Card with its own RAM.

Btw, Im assuming that its the Graphics that is swallowing it, I'm fairly sure that normally Graphics is the only thing that "steals" Ram like that, but I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
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22 Oct 2010   #13
1337

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) Build 7601
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by severedsolo View Post
I'm sorry to tell you that it won't be. Read my post again

Your Graphics Controller (probably) has told the BIOS and Windows that it wants 769MB of RAM. Therefore, that Ram will ALWAYS be allocated to that hardware. 64 bit will not help you in this instance.

The only thing 64 Bit will do is help you break the "4GB" barrier. So if you put 5GB of Ram into your machine, you will have 4.25GB available (after Hardware Reserved)

Under 32 bit, Windows won't see the extra 1GB because of address limitations, so you will still only have 3.25 available, even if you had 5GB installed.

The only way to reclaim the "lost" Ram thats being swallowed by Hardware Reserved is to install a Dedicated Graphics Card with its own RAM.

Btw, Im assuming that its the Graphics that is swallowing it, I'm fairly sure that normally Graphics is the only thing that "steals" Ram like that, but I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
Thank you for clearing my doubt on such detailed explanation. And, it looks like I have wasted my money on this new RAM for this matter of fact.
If it is the graphics card, what is the name or how do I address it if I were to search for it? Sorry for being a stupid at hardware.
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22 Oct 2010   #14
severedsolo

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

Can you please fill out your System Specs? https://www.sevenforums.com/usercp.php

If you don't know them then Speccy will tell you

By the way, you haven't "wasted" your money, before you would have had 2GB of Ram of which only 1.25GB was usable, so you have DEFINITELY done yourself a favour, although Windows 7 will run on 1GB of RAM, 2GB is better, and 3-4GB is the "sweet spot"
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22 Oct 2010   #15
1337

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) Build 7601
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by severedsolo View Post
Can you please fill out your System Specs? https://www.sevenforums.com/usercp.php

If you don't know them then Speccy will tell you

By the way, you haven't "wasted" your money, before you would have had 2GB of Ram of which only 1.25GB was usable, so you have DEFINITELY done yourself a favour, although Windows 7 will run on 1GB of RAM, 2GB is better, and 3-4GB is the "sweet spot"

System spec is updated and I hope I didn't paste anything wrong.
I was running a 3 GB of RAM previously and I have upgraded by 1 GB of RAM. XD Well, it is true if you put it such a way. =D
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22 Oct 2010   #16
severedsolo

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

Curious, according to your specs, your GPU is 256MB all the cards I can find of that type have 512MB of RAM.

Either way, that card has its own RAM and therefore can't be using the "Hardware Reserved" stuff.

I have never had 32 Bit Windows 7, so Im not sure exactly how much memory it can see. According to MS it should be able to use all 4GB (excluding hardware reserved) so I wonder whether it is actually Windows not being able to use all 4GB.

It might be worth installing 64 bit just to see whether or not that fixes the issue, but if it doesn't, thats a pretty costly excersise. Unless you happen to have a 64 bit disk lying around of course (if you bought the retail version for instance) that you could use to test it in a Dual boot.
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22 Oct 2010   #17
1337

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) Build 7601
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by severedsolo View Post
Curious, according to your specs, your GPU is 256MB all the cards I can find of that type have 512MB of RAM.

Either way, that card has its own RAM and therefore can't be using the "Hardware Reserved" stuff.

I have never had 32 Bit Windows 7, so Im not sure exactly how much memory it can see. According to MS it should be able to use all 4GB (excluding hardware reserved) so I wonder whether it is actually Windows not being able to use all 4GB.

It might be worth installing 64 bit just to see whether or not that fixes the issue, but if it doesn't, thats a pretty costly excersise. Unless you happen to have a 64 bit disk lying around of course (if you bought the retail version for instance) that you could use to test it in a Dual boot.
Thanks for checking that information up.
I have downloaded the Speccy to check and also went to NVIDIA's website to check.
256MB GeForce 8400 (Sapphire/PCPartner) <- According to Speccy.
So, I'm not entirely sure what happened there. This card came along with the PC when I bought off Acer.

I have one of those disc which I bought off school at a discounted price and I am trying out 64-bit, fresh install during the weekends since my current OS is acting all weird recently so, I'm going for it. I hope that will fix this issue.

Once again, much thanks for all the help so far!!! You have really been a great help! +1 Rep!
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24 Oct 2010   #18
1337

Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (x64) Build 7601
 
 

Hello to all again, I have successfully installed a 64-bit OS and making it dual-boot with my old 32-bit OS.

I would like to ask, how can I change the name of the OS appeared when I am in my boot manager where I will be given 26 seconds to choose to boot into which OS. Bother appeared as: 'Windows 7' so, it is quite confusing for me to choose. Is there a way to change the name like into: 'Windows 7 32-bit' & Windows 7 64-bit' rather than just, 'Windows 7'.
I remembered XP day where I can change the name using msconfig but I can't seems to find it now.

Sorry for the trouble again!
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24 Oct 2010   #19
zzz2496

Windows7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

It's still in the same place as XP, Control panel->System->Advanced system settings->Start up and Recovery.
Or you can use EasyBCD...

zzz2496
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24 Oct 2010   #20
IownAmoneyPit

Windows 7 Pro x 2/Windows 10 Home/10 Pro//Windows 10 Insider Preview ?
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 1337 View Post
Hello to all again, I have successfully installed a 64-bit OS and making it dual-boot with my old 32-bit OS.

I would like to ask, how can I change the name of the OS appeared when I am in my boot manager where I will be given 26 seconds to choose to boot into which OS. Bother appeared as: 'Windows 7' so, it is quite confusing for me to choose. Is there a way to change the name like into: 'Windows 7 32-bit' & Windows 7 64-bit' rather than just, 'Windows 7'.
I remembered XP day where I can change the name using msconfig but I can't seems to find it now.

Sorry for the trouble again!
Dual Boot - Change OS Name in Windows Boot Manager
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