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Windows 7: A Windows 7 search alternative ?

22 Dec 2010   #31
Buddahfan

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zigzag3143 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by juandante View Post
Hello, I am looking for a 3rd party search tool wich is about similar to Windows XP search tool.

It should be able to open with the Ctrl+F key in the Explorer.

Thanks for the help and sorry for the mistakes (I'm not English)

There is something called check everything download it here. Everything Search Engine

Good luck

Ken
Searched for "Glary" in Everything Search and Windows Explorer search C Drive.

Only difference is GlaryInitialize is showing up in Everything Search but not showing up in the Windows search

Name: GlaryInitialize
Path: C:Windows\System32\Tasks
Size: blank
Date Modified: blank

I then opened C:\Windows\System32 and searched for "Glary". Nothing showed up.

Everything is faster even with Windows being indexed and also appears to be more comprehensive in its searches as its name "Everything" would lead one to believe.

Evidently Everything searches for more than just files.


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22 Dec 2010   #32
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
I also find Everything Search Engine very useful.

It's very fast and efficient - without requiring masses of indexing - it's only for filenames. tho.

Others like Agent Ransack - Free File Searching Utility - to search for file contents
The horse I keep flogging is going to die one day.
These two complement each other and form the basis of my search toolkit.
"Everything" mainly for administration/computer manage activities.
"Agent Ransack/File Locator Lite" Day to day file/contents searches.
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22 Dec 2010   #33
pacinitaly

windows 7 professional & ultimate 64bit laptops
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
I also find Everything Search Engine very useful.

It's very fast and efficient - without requiring masses of indexing - it's only for filenames. tho.

Others like Agent Ransack - Free File Searching Utility - to search for file contents
The horse I keep flogging is going to die one day.
These two complement each other and form the basis of my search toolkit.
"Everything" mainly for administration/computer manage activities.
"Agent Ransack/File Locator Lite" Day to day file/contents searches.


mjf, try to supply links for the others
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22 Dec 2010   #34
jh2oman

Win 7 -64 premium
 
 

[QUOTE
I'll say it one more time, for logic's sake......find out what the problem is, rather than just instantly assume the problem is with Microsoft. If everyone had this problem, it would be called a bug, and Microsoft would be on the hook to fix it. Common sense, people. Common sense.[/QUOTE]

Instantly? Use your own common sense. I'm not some bloody hoser with 1800 posts on this board, I came here as a last resort to find a solution. I've spent days (over the past 5 months) looking for a solution, and bottom line, it just does not work. Content based searches across my network crash or give wrong results! In XP Mode they do not. P-O-S!
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22 Dec 2010   #35
James Colbert

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by logicearth View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by James Colbert View Post
I did add all partitions and drives to Indexing and allowed 24 hrs. for the index to rebuild. The results were that the start menu did find the file NOHSC_menu.pdf it couldn’t find before, and found it quickly. However, a search from Computer still failed to find the file at all.
A whole lot of lateness, but...

When you do the search from "Computer" it doesn't use the index. Instead it goes down the file system tree doing a filename match only. So if you have a lot of drives/data then it will take a while.

Using it from the start menu or Win+F Search then it will use the index.
WinKey+F is perfectly useless here. GROD for as long as I care to watch. However, tweaks in the setup here and there and further education on the AQS syntax has provided much better results. A search from Computer actually works pretty well now. Not perfect, but improved and quick enough for me to be content. WinKey+F is benched. No point in wasting time.

James
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23 Dec 2010   #36
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by juandante View Post
Hello, I am looking for a 3rd party search tool wich is about similar to Windows XP search tool.

It should be able to open with the Ctrl+F key in the Explorer.

Thanks for the help and sorry for the mistakes (I'm not English)
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pacinitaly View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
I also find Everything Search Engine very useful.

It's very fast and efficient - without requiring masses of indexing - it's only for filenames. tho.

Others like Agent Ransack - Free File Searching Utility - to search for file contents
The horse I keep flogging is going to die one day.
These two complement each other and form the basis of my search toolkit.
"Everything" mainly for administration/computer manage activities.
"Agent Ransack/File Locator Lite" Day to day file/contents searches.


mjf, try to supply links for the others
pacinitaly i'm not sure what your last question means. I can recommend the two applications linked above.
As to the OP's specific question Agent Ransack now marketed as FileLocator Lite meets his requirements (and then some I would say). Other third party suggestions are included in the thread.
The question has been answered and it's now up to the OP to try them and see what best suits his/her needs.
To get the (much superior) ctrl F or F3 simply select the configuration setting shown below


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23 Dec 2010   #37
mikedl

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Needless to say (but I'm still gonna say it ), a GUI search would be best in Win 7 ala Win XP. One of the most frequently asked questions on this board deals with the search function in Win 7.

Sure, one could learn the syntax; I'm a geek, I've learned it and I use it. One can also tweak the indexing options; I'm a geek, I've tweaked it for my needs.

The point is, this board has many people looking for help with Win 7. They are not all geeks like me and many of the other regular posters here.

The XP search was easy. It offered drop downs for file types, extensions, contents, size, date modified, location (one did not have to select the folder through explorer, one could select it from a drop down) et al, without remembering some arcane syntax methods. Welcome to the world of DOS. A Win 7 search GUI could expound, hierarchically, on the old XP search GUI with extra drop downs for the myriad of newly indexed values. It's too bad MS doesn't do this.

I'm mystified. This is not a small issue for the average user. All they want to do is find their files and get their work done. MS made that more difficult and less intuitive in Win 7.

It is too easy to dismiss others by simply saying "learn the new method" when others have been using the XP search method for almost 10 years now. I cannot imagine a GUI would be that difficult to put together. Again, it's too bad MS hasn't done it in Win 7.

I miss the cat ...

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23 Dec 2010   #38
Buddahfan

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Hopalong X View Post
I looked at the link. It has over 5,500 words.

No doubt that Windows7 search is designed for computers with many many files on them, my guess is upwards of 1 million.

I checked my computer.

It has a paltry 113,500 files on them, 71,500 or 63% are in the c:windows\ directory chain.

The point is for users like myself who have under 50,000 or even double that amount of files on their computer Windows 7 Search Configuration and Use is more trouble than it is worth. Especially when there are third party search programs out there for free that do what I want, don't really need to be configured and on computers with the limited number of files that I have are lightning fast.
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23 Dec 2010   #39
Buddahfan

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jh2oman View Post
MS needs to come clean on this -- as the Editor said a few posts above, a lot of people are having real problems with this. For goodness sake, FIX IT!!!!!
I can't believe I still have to ask this, but why does Microsoft have to come clean one something that works for 99.9% of the people who try it? Instead of randomly pointing fingers, why not try to find out what makes your system different than most others?

I have 6 drives mapped to different server on my current work computer, and 4 mapped at home to my WHS box. I can use the built-in search on any of those locations, and aside from the expected delay, every search works fine and returns what I am looking for.

I'll say it one more time, for logic's sake......find out what the problem is, rather than just instantly assume the problem is with Microsoft. If everyone had this problem, it would be called a bug, and Microsoft would be on the hook to fix it. Common sense, people. Common sense.
It is not always a case of there being a problem.

Many times it is a case of the proper match.

For example I use my computer for streaming videos off the Net, surfing the Net, playing some DVDs and Avi files, and doing a limited amount of Word Processing and Spreadsheet stuff.

I don't need a powerhouse computer and I don't need a powerhouse search engine that is overkill for my needs.

I am sure if I had 1 million files or whatever on my computer I would take the time learn the Windows Search capabilities and configure it to achieve my desired goals.

But my search needs are simple so I only need a simple search program that works quickly and effectively and does not take any time to learn and to configure.

You don't see any of the Indy car drivers on the regular streets driving their ethanol race cars, it would be great overkill for sitting in gridlock.
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23 Dec 2010   #40
DeaconFrost

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jh2oman View Post
Instantly? Use your own common sense. I'm not some bloody hoser with 1800 posts on this board, I came here as a last resort to find a solution. I've spent days (over the past 5 months) looking for a solution, and bottom line, it just does not work. Content based searches across my network crash or give wrong results! In XP Mode they do not. P-O-S!
If it is a bug, aka Microsoft's fault, why would it work for just about everyone else? How about my users...all 30 of them who've been switched to Windows 7 Professional? We store everything on our servers, and I have taught all of them how to use the search so they can find files somewhere across the 150 GB of data we currently store. Not one person has complained of an issue...and these people complain about everything computer-related.

Common sense isn't always common, as demonstrated here. The longer you sit and blame Microsoft, the longer it will be until you decide to find the real culprit. I do sincerely hope you aren't ever a legal prosecutor or a detective.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Buddahfan View Post
But my search needs are simple so I only need a simple search program that works quickly and effectively and does not take any time to learn and to configure.
You've got it right in front of you. What does the power of the computer have to do with it? There isn't even a learning curve, because the syntax is either readily available, or part of common knowledge, as demonstrated in the previous thread in which a user bashed Microsoft (sound familair?) for not returning all of their .sol files....several pages worth of rants, until it was discovered the OP didn't know the simple and decades old syntax of *.sol to find them. Simply put...the search feature does exactly what it is instructed to do, and it is available on screen nearly everywhere.

If my users can learn how to use it effectively, than there's no excuse for anyone else not to. These are people who often call me at home at night asking how to undock their laptops from their docking stations, what cables they need for wireless internet, and what it means when they put their computers to sleep. Yes, those are true stories.
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