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Windows 7: A Windows 7 search alternative ?

29 Dec 2010   #51
mikedl

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 



Back atcha, Mike!

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29 Dec 2010   #52
Hopalong X

Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit
 
 

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29 Dec 2010   #53
MacGyvr

Windows 7 Ultimate RTM (Technet)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by James Colbert View Post
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I do make use of multiple partitions. I have 12 on my production machine (spread across 4 drives), and I edit Indexing Options so that I am not indexing all resources, but only those I feel useful.
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I have about 1/2 of my partitions indexed.
James Colbert, More than likely, this is why you're having search issues. As I quoted in the last sentence of my last post "I can see why users with multiple partitions/drives are having issues, it gets very complex"
And I think your assessment is unfortunately correct. Multiple partitions and selective indexing likely do contribute to the issue. But this should not be so. In fact, I just left this post to google for any issues with "win 7 indexing AND multiple partitions" and "win 7 search AND multiple partitions". Given my time limits this morning, I only perused the first page of each google search, but could find no mentions of this being a problematic condition for Win7 search/indexing.

I think I may try turning indexing on for all partitions and see if it makes a difference. Of course, the system will need time for indexing, and given that I will be out for most of the day (and will turn the system off), I probably won't know if it makes a difference until the weekend.

A good day to all,
James
Microsoft suggests against just that. Indexing entire drives or partitions will hamper the search capabilities. Index only those specific locations that you wish to search (top folder level).
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29 Dec 2010   #54
James Colbert

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MacGyvr View Post

Microsoft suggests against just that. Indexing entire drives or partitions will hamper the search capabilities. Index only those specific locations that you wish to search (top folder level).
Be that as it may, indexing all partitions and drives is a big part of what has made search usable for me.

James
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29 Dec 2010   #55
James Colbert

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dzomlija View Post
[The old "I don't understand this" excuse doesn't cut it. If you're not willing to learn how, then you're wasting oxygen.
Really? Wasting oxygen? Does that apply to those who can't fix their own car as well? How about arc welding? How about carpentry? Plumbing? A/C installation and repair? Electrical troubleshooting, wiring houses? Bookkeeping? How about writing music? Wrote any good songs lately? No? Hand over the lungs, buddy. Any aspect of any skill at which you are not proficient, able or willing to learn at all? Sorry, your philosophy condemns you.

The above I've named are just a few of the everyday necessities in our lives, all of which come 2nd nature to some. But, If I apply your philosophy (and shared by other posters) to you, you're a waste of space. Know how to do all of those? How about recombinant DNA?

The point being (that seems to be overlooked no matter how many times it's made) is that not all have the ability to understand what you (or others) might consider simple. Nor do you (or anyone) understand everything about everything. Nor can you. Nor can anyone.

There are some users in this forum that believe that anybody who doesn't understand what they consider to be simple (or, even, they may understand, but it's not working correctly for them) must be idiots, and certainly in this forum, many times they are treated as such. And quite rudely and arrogantly so.

The irony here is that a philosophy held must apply to those that wield it. Even the inability to understand that not everyone has the gift of understanding 'search' or file management, or missing GBs, you name it, must fall under that very same philosophy if it is true at all. It cannot be selectively applied, else it is rendered invalid.

So, if there is any area that is beyond your understanding, just know that to someone, somewhere, it's as simple as can be. And you must immediately quit wasting our oxygen, as per your philosophy.

You just got both barrels, and the truth is that, although I am addressing this particular post, there are several posters who hold this philosophy to a much greater degree, and in fact, treat people quite arrogantly and rudely. I have no hard feelings against you or any other poster, but have had enough of the rudeness directed at posters who don't possess the skills others think they should. And it happens entirely too often in this group, sometimes angering or humiliating posters enough that they go elsewhere for help, thus, defeating what I think is the primary purpose of this forum.


James
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29 Dec 2010   #56
mikedl

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Props, James. ^^^^^

Well said.
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29 Dec 2010   #57
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by James Colbert View Post

The point being (that seems to be overlooked no matter how many times it's made) is that not all have the ability to understand what you (or others) might consider simple.

James

You are certainly correct in your pointed post.

But the point is not being overlooked at all.

It is being willfully ignored because to acknowledge it undermines the argument of the opposition. The act of willfully ignoring the point only makes it all the more conspicuous. Of course, the conspicuousness itself then must be similarly ignored. Ad infinitum, lather, rinse, and repeat.
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29 Dec 2010   #58
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by James Colbert View Post

The point being (that seems to be overlooked no matter how many times it's made) is that not all have the ability to understand what you (or others) might consider simple.

James

You are certainly correct in your pointed post.

But the point is not being overlooked at all.

It is being willfully ignored because to acknowledge it undermines the argument of the opposition. The act of willfully ignoring the point only makes it all the more conspicuous. Of course, the conspicuousness itself then must be similarly ignored. Ad infinitum, lather, rinse, and repeat.
This thread has become sheer entertainment. Some of you guys are full of yourselves. You seem to be suggesting the average person would have difficulty understanding the syntax of the Windows search? It's more likely that they couldn't be bothered because they are engaged in their own primary occupation and don't want to be slowed down by some search tool with an archaic command line interface. They certainly don't want to fix the search tool when it's not even working properly for them. These are the people who make the money for software houses.

Alternatively we could scrap this windows nonsense and go back to a Unix command line operating system.
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29 Dec 2010   #59
Dzomlija

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by James Colbert View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dzomlija View Post
[The old "I don't understand this" excuse doesn't cut it. If you're not willing to learn how, then you're wasting oxygen.
Really? Wasting oxygen? Does that apply to those who can't fix their own car as well? How about arc welding? How about carpentry? Plumbing? A/C installation and repair? Electrical troubleshooting, wiring houses? Bookkeeping? How about writing music? Wrote any good songs lately? No? Hand over the lungs, buddy. Any aspect of any skill at which you are not proficient, able or willing to learn at all? Sorry, your philosophy condemns you.

The above I've named are just a few of the everyday necessities in our lives, all of which come 2nd nature to some. But, If I apply your philosophy (and shared by other posters) to you, you're a waste of space. Know how to do all of those? How about recombinant DNA?

The point being (that seems to be overlooked no matter how many times it's made) is that not all have the ability to understand what you (or others) might consider simple. Nor do you (or anyone) understand everything about everything. Nor can you. Nor can anyone.

There are some users in this forum that believe that anybody who doesn't understand what they consider to be simple (or, even, they may understand, but it's not working correctly for them) must be idiots, and certainly in this forum, many times they are treated as such. And quite rudely and arrogantly so.

The irony here is that a philosophy held must apply to those that wield it. Even the inability to understand that not everyone has the gift of understanding 'search' or file management, or missing GBs, you name it, must fall under that very same philosophy if it is true at all. It cannot be selectively applied, else it is rendered invalid.

So, if there is any area that is beyond your understanding, just know that to someone, somewhere, it's as simple as can be. And you must immediately quit wasting our oxygen, as per your philosophy.

You just got both barrels, and the truth is that, although I am addressing this particular post, there are several posters who hold this philosophy to a much greater degree, and in fact, treat people quite arrogantly and rudely. I have no hard feelings against you or any other poster, but have had enough of the rudeness directed at posters who don't possess the skills others think they should. And it happens entirely too often in this group, sometimes angering or humiliating posters enough that they go elsewhere for help, thus, defeating what I think is the primary purpose of this forum.


James
Point well taken, James.

In hindsight, perhaps I could have used a little more tact, and not come off as rude. Which was not my intention.

I understand that everyone has different skillsets to suit their unique personalities and learning abilities, but by philosophy I always try to help others. Perhaps this is why I get annoyed when someone encounters something new, and dismisses it entirely without at least giving it some effort to learn.

My brother happens to be an electrician by trade, and a pretty competent carpenter too. Oh, I can do the things he does, but not with his proficiency. I don't know how to fix cars myself, but I do know enough about them to at least be able to understand what is being said.

My point is that if you don't try something new at least once, then how can we possibly grow and learn? My anger is directed towards those who just don't make an effort to try. Which is better? Attempting to learn something new, and failing, or just not trying at all?

Personally, I'd rather make a fool of myself 1000 times over failing at something new before I give up without trying at all.
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30 Dec 2010   #60
soho1

 

James is right. mborner was too when he said "with that knowledge..."

Trouble is, it is not obvious how to use it at first. A typical search for me is to find the office files that had particular content. For instance, where did I leave that XLS file that had the MSFT stock quotes and links in it?

By default, searching for will yield 100+ entries from my Outlook messgaes, but nothing else.

What you have to do is type in the command line start box is:
*.xls* CONTENT:MSFT
and press ENTER

That will execute a search resulting in the dozen or so files (on my machine) that have MSFT in an XLS file.

I don't know all the ins and outs of search, but with search, knowledge is power. Everyone log their tips on how to use it here and we can summarize a tutorial.

I hope that helps.
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