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Windows 7: WinXP/Win7 dilemma with new computer

12 Nov 2010   #11
FliGi7

XP / Win7 x64 Pro
 
 

I'm glad we've given you hope. I think you'll be really impressed with the things Windows 7 will allow you to do as compared to older systems.

I do have XP and 7 and I dual boot for one reason only. I am of the school of thought of "do one thing and do it right". So, I have each of my operating systems (also running Linux) on separate physical drives for a couple reasons. One is so that if I ever fubar something on a drive, it doesn't take out any other unrelated or unnecessary partitions. Two, I like to image my drives upon successful install for easier re-installation later, so imaging a single drive is as easy as it gets with the Linux "dd" command to an external drive. Three, as related to two, I am often re-imaging or re-installing OS's to try different things and versions out. This gets much more complicated if you have several partitions on one drive running different OS's with different bootloaders. I have screwed up my bootloaders one too many times to keep doing that. So, really, it just boils down to simplicity. Also, I have an OCD need for speed and like having a simple and speedy OS->hardware communication mechanism rather than the extra layer provided by a virtualized environment which inherently causes slow downs. Although these slow downs are minimal these days, I refer you back to my OCD comment about speed. This really comes into play when you're running Photoshop in a virtualized environment, which is another one of the main reasons I'm still running XP on my dedicated drive.

I wouldn't say programs necessarily run better on XP, or vice versa, just that I have programs that I've run on XP for a while and I'd rather not move them all over.


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12 Nov 2010   #12
metania

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

I like your thinking and the sound of your setup, FliGi7. I'd like to have the two OS's on two separate drives. I also have a few older programs that I don't feel like messing with. I've never installed an extra HD before but I have upgraded ram before so I'm not afraid to get inside the thing and try.

Is there a way I can install my old SATA HD from the Compaq that died, into my new computer (coming today sometime)? I also have a complete image of that drive on a separate Iomega extenal HD.
Is there a step-by-step tutorial I can follow?
Do I have to reinstall Windows MCE 2005? I only have the HP recovery discs I made when I first got the computer.
Can I use the same product key, since I'm still technically only using the one copy of MCE in one computer at a time?

I'd love to just be able to use that old drive as if it were my old compaq, while starting to use the new Win7 in the faster machine I just got. Can't imagine how screamin' fast that old XP will work with 4 GB RAM vs. the old 512 MB.

I think I have the need for speed and simplicity too-really appreciate your help!
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12 Nov 2010   #13
FliGi7

XP / Win7 x64 Pro
 
 

You should have no problem just hooking the old drive up inside the new computer and booting from it. No need to reinstall anything. You just have to make sure you change the boot order in the bios to boot from that drive at start up, or if you don't want to make the change each time you can press the F12(?) key at BIOS bootup to bring up the boot drive selection menu.
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12 Nov 2010   #14
metania

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 


Well, if it sounds too good to be true, it usually is.

I put the old HD in, no problem. Booted up to it, windows XP was starting up, then it said I needed to validate it. Tried validating but didn't work. So much for that.

Went back in, removed old HD, now Win 7 freezes everytime I boot into it. I can enter via Safe Mode, but not regular Win 7. I don't know why or how this happened. Tried 4 times, no luck.

Am now reinstalling windows 7 from reinstallation disc instead. Hope it works.

Well, now it works, but doesn't recognize my monitor and doesn't pick up my wireless network with the pci card, as it did before. What is going on?

How do I get it the same as it was out of the box?
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12 Nov 2010   #15
MrFlexible

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Metania, I am running Windows7 Pro x64. I have several programs which date back to Windows 95. They run without any problems after making the following change. Right click on the desktop icon for the program in question and select Properties. Click on the Compatibility tab. In the Compatibility Mode box, check the box "Run this program in compatibility mode for:". Click on the downward pointing arrow in the small window below that and select the version of Windows for which you want compatibility. Works for me!
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17 Nov 2010   #16
FliGi7

XP / Win7 x64 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by metania View Post

Well, if it sounds too good to be true, it usually is.

I put the old HD in, no problem. Booted up to it, windows XP was starting up, then it said I needed to validate it. Tried validating but didn't work. So much for that.

Went back in, removed old HD, now Win 7 freezes everytime I boot into it. I can enter via Safe Mode, but not regular Win 7. I don't know why or how this happened. Tried 4 times, no luck.

Am now reinstalling windows 7 from reinstallation disc instead. Hope it works.

Well, now it works, but doesn't recognize my monitor and doesn't pick up my wireless network with the pci card, as it did before. What is going on?

How do I get it the same as it was out of the box?
Since you re-installed, you blew away all the drivers on your system, so you'll have to download and re-install all of them (if your system didn't come with a drivers & utilities disc):

Drivers & Downloads

Keep in mind, there are various different drivers in each category so you'll have to know which video card you have to download the proper driver from the video section.

After you get all squared away with drivers, make sure you create a system repair disc so that you can boot from that in the future and try to repair things before having to re-install.
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17 Nov 2010   #17
gregrocker

 

Use the drivers given by the installer and updated by optional Windows Updates.

Boot into Safe Mode with Networking to update the drivers.

Any drivers in error or mssing in device Manager can be found on the Support Downloads webpage for your model computer or device.

Check the Event Viewer>Custom>Admin view to see what else might be hanging your startup. Also the Performance log on Advanced Tools page accessed by clicking WEI score on Computer>Properties. Check also for issues cued at top of Tools page, Generate a System Health Report.

Did you run the Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor? http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...e-advisor.aspx It will tell you which drivers or apps are incompatible.
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17 Nov 2010   #18
FliGi7

XP / Win7 x64 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Use the drivers given by the installer and updated by optional Windows Updates.

Boot into Safe Mode with Networking to update the drivers.

Any drivers in error or mssing in device Manager can be found on the Support Downloads webpage for your model computer or device.

Check the Event Viewer>Custom>Admin view to see what else might be hanging your startup. Also the Performance log on Advanced Tools page accessed by clicking WEI score on Computer>Properties. Check also for issues cued at top of Tools page, Generate a System Health Report.

Did you run the Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor? Free Download PC Upgrade Advisor Windows 7 Hardware Programs Issues It will tell you which drivers or apps are incompatible.
Personally, I download drivers straight from the manufacturer's website as Windows update has proven incorrect and out of date on more than one occasion.
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17 Nov 2010   #19
gregrocker

 

MS spent a fortune getting the latest drivers into the installer or quickly available via optional Windows Updates.

They even paid manufacturers to build Win7 drivers so they wouldn't hold out, forcing us to buy newer hardware, as they did with Vista.

We have numerous install cases where users have followed XPired oldthink to import their chipset immediately after Win7 install and wound up with an older chipset than the installer provided.

In addition, older hardware chipset drivers have been modified to run on Win7 using the installer's chipset drivers. In many cases I can't get imported XP chipsets to work even in Compatibility Mode.

For this reason, I suggest not replacing the installer/optional Updates drivers unless performance dictates doing so.
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17 Nov 2010   #20
FliGi7

XP / Win7 x64 Pro
 
 

Understood. However, having been through several cases (chipset, network controller, graphics card) where the drivers in Windows 7 were actually older than the ones on the websites, I simply go straight to the sites now. Attempting to import older drivers in compatibility mode is a different story and not actually applicable in this case given his brand new computer. In such cases, it would obviously be more optimal to use a driver that MS has already put into production in a compatible mode for the new OS. He should have no problem going straight to Dell to get all of the latest drivers, and could also have no problem using Windows Update for all of them. Just based on my consistent experiences of those drivers being spotty at absolute best, I cease to use Windows update for driver installation.
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