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Windows 7: More on search hell

22 Nov 2010   #21
Anak

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Win 7 Home Premium 64bit Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601 - SP1
 
 

I don't know what I'm doing wrong I used your TryToFindThis in my Doc Library, and as soon as I typed * it came up, along with several others.........

Then I typed *
Try*, *To*, *Find*, and *This* each in succession, and the file stayed there while others that didn't match disappeared?!?



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22 Nov 2010   #22
gilmoses

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

Correct me if I'm wrong: Indexing is ONLY about speeding up searches. It has nothing to do with whether the files can be found or not.
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22 Nov 2010   #23
gilmoses

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

Kari, try my example in a newly created 'Kari' directory.

I've played with it a bit too, it seems like it behaves differently depending on the folder..
In my C:\Windows folder, it didn't find the file even when I typed the full "TryToFindThis" string...
Otherwise it behaves like I described initially.
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22 Nov 2010   #24
Anak

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I think your only partially right. According to this:
Quote:
Indexing Service is a base service that extracts content from files and constructs an indexed catalog to facilitate efficient and rapid searching.
Indexing Service (Windows)

If you go down a little further look into using filters:
Using Custom Filters with Indexing Service (Windows)

But if you look at the very top of the first link, it says:
Quote:
[Indexing Service is obsolete as of Windows XP. Instead, use Windows Search.]
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22 Nov 2010   #25
Kari

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gilmoses View Post
Correct me if I'm wrong: Indexing is ONLY about speeding up searches. It has nothing to do with whether the files can be found or not.
Indexed = file is listed in search index i.e. (should be) found if search criteria matches
Not indexed = file is not listed, not found, when searching only the indexed locations.

Example (re: two different search systems as mentioned in my earlier post):
- searching from Start Menu > Search Field, only indexed files and their contents are searched i.e. a non-indexed file is not found
- Searching from Explorer window > search field, all files & their contents is (should be) searched
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22 Nov 2010   #26
Anak

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Win 7 Home Premium 64bit Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601 - SP1
 
 

Gil, I put the TryToFindThis folder that had a TryToFindThis file in it, in C:\Windows\

I did a search like before:
I typed *Try*, *To*, *Find*, and *This* each in succession, and the file stayed there while others that didn't match disappeared.
I found both the Folder, and the File.

When I went to its location it was ...C:\Windows\TryToFindThis
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22 Nov 2010   #27
gilmoses

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

Mmm.. strange.
Maybe it makes a difference whether the folder had been indexed (or is within an indexed folder).
It doesn't work for me this way.
Can anyone else try this too, please?
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22 Nov 2010   #28
Trucidation

 

I've nothing to add directly except to note that when I need to grovel through my source code files for a particular string of characters I rely on my text editor's file contents search because win search hasn't been consistent in delivering results. Shrug. Could be indexing, could be PEBKAC - but precisely because pinpointing the exact cause of the problem isn't easy, it's far less hassle to just throw up your hands in defeat and use a 3rd party tool which you know will deliver. However, I know I'd love it if you guys can get this to work.

Sorry about the diversion; carry on.
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22 Nov 2010   #29
Anak

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Win 7 Home Premium 64bit Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601 - SP1
 
 

Gil I tried A new File and Folder in C:\Windows with the same result. All words or groups were found.

You might have a corrupt Index. Go to search type in index, then click on Index Options >Advance >From there you can rebuild it or troubleshoot it.


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22 Nov 2010   #30
Anak

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Win 7 Home Premium 64bit Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601 - SP1
 
 

Almost forgot....

If you use the troubleshooter you see when you search for index click on advance, then run as Administrator.
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