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Windows 7: RTM silly question

11 Jun 2009   #11
Zagadka

Win 7, Win 8, Ubuntu (64 bit)
 
 

October is closer than you'd think. I've been putting away $50 a month for a Win7 copy and some minor hardware changes...

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
Yes, when RTM is released, DO NOT UPGRADE. Save yourself some hassle. Do a full clean install (format is not required, since clean install will copy the old system files to a .old directory).
I'd still suggest a format. I've seen some really weird errors carry over. I don't even like MS's Files and Settings Transfer Wizard. And sometimes you can't get rid of the .old folder... a friend's computer has 3 Windows folders, including an obsolete one on a secondary drive, but Windows won't let it be touched. Fussy bitch.

It is really too bad that MS isn't replacing NTFS like they wanted to.


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11 Jun 2009   #12
segobi

PTS-Dos
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Zagadka View Post
It is really too bad that MS isn't replacing NTFS like they wanted to.
Well NTFS is great..sol....
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11 Jun 2009   #13
Zagadka

Win 7, Win 8, Ubuntu (64 bit)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by segobi View Post
Well NTFS is great..sol....
A relational system like WinFS was planned would be much more efficient. NTFS is really outdated given the changes in modern computing.
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11 Jun 2009   #14
Shayx

Windows 8.1 Enterprise
 
 

no i'm not gonna upgrade to RTM
just wanted to know if i should do a clean install to RETAIL version when it comes out.
according to you guys i don't need to. THANKS!

so we should expect RTM at the end of this month right?
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11 Jun 2009   #15
usasma
Microsoft MVP

 
 

RTM is released to the manufacturer's for them to get it installed on their systems prior to the GA (General Availability) date when the public can purchase it - either preinstalled on a system or by purchasing a retail copy.
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11 Jun 2009   #16
Mystere

Windows 7 64 bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Orbital Shark View Post
That may be the case with some vendors, but Microsoft does not create new builds in the same tree after it has gone to RTM. Once it goes RTM (if not before) the build branch is forked into an SP branch and a "next version" branch. Any new "fixes" that may occur are typically created as hotfixes to the existing RTM build.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Zagadka View Post
A relational system like WinFS was planned would be much more efficient. NTFS is really outdated given the changes in modern computing.
WinFS was not a new filesystem. This is a myth. Many people assumed that "FS" stood for filesystem. In reality, it stood for "Future Storage". WinFS was basically an "add-on" to NTFS to give it object oriented capaibilities.
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11 Jun 2009   #17
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 
RTM Upgrade or Clean install

Just a little information for those contemplating whether to upgrade from the RC to the RTM (GA) version of Windows 7 or to perform a fresh install .

It has been normal practice in the past to NOT include the Release Candidate, (or beta), in the list acceptable operating systems for the upgrade process.

There may of course be workarounds to get past this limitation, if, as seems likely, it applies to Windows 7.
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12 Jun 2009   #18
sup3rsprt

XP, Seven, 2008R2
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Zagadka View Post
And sometimes you can't get rid of the .old folder... a friend's computer has 3 Windows folders, including an obsolete one on a secondary drive, but Windows won't let it be touched. Fussy bitch.
Take ownership and full control of the folder through right click > Properties > Security tab. If you have problems, you can use a WinXP environment to do it (either through dual boot or something like BartPE). It works every time, because WinXP is not fooled by silly Win7 file permissions.
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12 Jun 2009   #19
Zagadka

Win 7, Win 8, Ubuntu (64 bit)
 
 

Regarding WinFS, I know what the FS stood for, but it was a step in a new direction.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sup3rsprt View Post
Take ownership and full control of the folder through right click > Properties > Security tab. If you have problems, you can use a WinXP environment to do it (either through dual boot or something like BartPE). It works every time, because WinXP is not fooled by silly Win7 file permissions.
Yea, but it gives DLL in use etc, even in Safe Mode.
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12 Jun 2009   #20
poin2

Windows7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Shayx View Post
no i'm not gonna upgrade to RTM
just wanted to know if i should do a clean install to RETAIL version when it comes out.
according to you guys i don't need to. THANKS!

so we should expect RTM at the end of this month right?
Barring some disaster, RTM and "Retail" are identical. Right, you don't need to upgrade or clean install a second time.

Several places claim MS is targeting June 30 for RTM. I believe it's the end of their own fiscal year, and it would also make good, convenient timing to announce it right around when the free upgrade system for new computers goes into effect, especially since some students are already back-to-school computer shopping.

Not sure how long they'd take to start distributing it to partners, Technet, etc., but one might hope there would at least be an RTM announcement around the end of the month.

Given it's Windows "7," I suppose they could get tricky with doing a July (7th month) announcement, and time things somehow with the 4th or 7th (or 1st) of July, but we'll see.
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