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Windows 7: RTM silly question

12 Jun 2009   #21

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers

Hi all
You can consider RTM as like a QC (Quality control) system before moving an application to a live / production system.

I'll slightly over simplify it here but essentially most IT projects follow the following line when developing a new application / fixing an old one.

You have 3 systems Development, Test (or QC) and Production / Live.

Development is done and finalized in DEV. The build is the migrated to TEST or QC where live / power users test it and try to break it. If it passes the build is then deployed into the live system.

You can consider the RTM as the QC version -- not quite retail as it's in final testing but if no significant problems are found this will essentially be the same version as will be released to RETAIL.

(In a real world environment the actual process is slightly more complex as you have to do "Regression Testing" - this is checking that a fix you apply doesn't break something that has been previously fixed which can happen if a second change is made to a module that's been previously changed by an earlier fix) but conceptually the 3 step process is correct.

Incidentally you often experience "regression" problems in complicated software builds like an OS -- you can even see cases of these on the forums. This happens when people say xxxxx was fixed in build yyyyyy but seems to be broken again in build zzzzz.

Hope this clears up some of the muddle.


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12 Jun 2009   #22

XP, Seven, 2008R2

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Zagadka View Post
Yea, but it gives DLL in use etc, even in Safe Mode.
There are tools that can unlock files that are in use. Unlocker is a good one.

In my case, nothing in .old folder was in use by Windows after a reinstall. I didn't want to format the C: partition on my laptop because I have lots of other data on there. If you know what you're doing, the system will run just as good and clean as if you had formatted the partition.
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12 Jun 2009   #23

Windows 7

Disk Cleanup also cleans up the .old files apparently..
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12 Jun 2009   #24

Windows 7 64 bit SP1

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
Hi all
You can consider RTM as like a QC (Quality control) system before moving an application to a live / production system.
No. RTM is "Released To Manufacturing."

This means the final code is sent to the CD Duplicators to create the actual disks that will be shipped in the sleves, jewel cases or retail boxes.

RTM comes after QC. Once it's RTM, it's soup.
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13 Jun 2009   #25

Windows 7 32-bit; no 64 coz its a P4 478

I already PMed the guy who complained abt Windows.old folder, but looks like you guys never use Disk Cleanup (although its a bit feature-starved, it can clean up Windows.old folder for you without file permission issues.....) Just run Disk Cleanup> Select ur drive that has Windows.old>once its done> Click 'Clean System Files'(if you dont see this button then nvm abt it coz ur UAC's off)>then select previous Windows Version.... I myself love Windows.old 'feature' coz it reallllllyyyy helps me to upgrade/re-install their OS without any backing up... Think abt the Computer shop Support ppl, they will be happy to see this 'feature' coz it saves their time massively by NOT backing up useless old rubbish thats 100GB-800GB when re-installing OS???? Even my friend love this feature (1 of the reasons y they are using Vista or 7)
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