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Windows 7: Question Regarding Talk Manager.

05 Dec 2010   #1
SevenNerd

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 
Question Regarding Windows Task Manager.

Just curious, is task manager fool proof? Can you always depend on it showing exactly whats running on your OS? Or can certain malware/viruses hide themselves? In my experience working on my customers machines the malware/virrses will always show in task manager (although ending the process is pointless) I feel windows does a good job of knowing what going on.

Any thoughts?


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05 Dec 2010   #2
Darryl Licht

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Steve Ballmer Signature Edition
 
 

For the most part I agree with what you are saying. I too am a consultant and remove repair virii regularly for clients. But, virii are getting more sophisticated all the time.

I use the bank analogy... Banks used to have no bars, no alarms, no bullet proof glass, etc.. As criminals learned so did the banks... each time a new protection was put in place, the criminals come up with a way to circumnavigate that. Then the bank puts a new protection in place. The same is true for virus creators/programmers and AV companies.

Yes Win7 does a great job... but what if a virus hijacks a known executable how do you tell the legit from the illegit in Task Manager? <--- just thinking outloud!
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05 Dec 2010   #3
Ztruker

Windows 10 Pro X64
 
 

You will not see a rootkit in Task Manager or any malware that installs itself or part of itself as a device driver. You need special software and some good help to identify and remove them, if they can be removed, not all can.

I think Virut was one that when yoiu got it, you had to do a clean install to get rid of it.
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05 Dec 2010   #4
Darryl Licht

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Steve Ballmer Signature Edition
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ztruker View Post
You will not see a rootkit in Task Manager or any malware that installs itself or part of itself as a device driver. You need special software and some good help to identify and remove them, if they can be removed, not all can.

I think Virut was one that when yoiu got it, you had to do a clean install to get rid of it.
You can see many offending apps/virii/etc. in Task Manager! It may not list as the correct file or name but if you know your system and whats running regularly you can see misbehaving apps... typically! I watch memory usage for "bad" apps, etc.
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05 Dec 2010   #5
parabellum

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Replace Task Manager with Process Explorer and add the columns you need. Better choice.
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06 Dec 2010   #6
Darryl Licht

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Steve Ballmer Signature Edition
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by parabellum View Post
Replace Task Manager with Process Explorer and add the columns you need. Better choice.
Parabellum: Perhaps in the future you can be more clear and specific with your answers. I had no idea what you were talking about until I googled "Process Explorer"... and neither did anyone else probably!

Yes, it is a step above Task Manager, from MS Technet for free and released just a few weeks ago... Process Explorer

A really nice feature is that its a small exe file and can be run from a USB flash drive!
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