Unallocated 7.84 mb space materializes (from Outer Space?)

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  1. Posts : 63
    Win7 Home Prem. 64 OEM
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       #11

    diehrd said:
    ...
    CAUSE
    Some space at the end of the disk is reserved by Setup in case you later want to upgrade the disk to a dynamic disk. ...
    From the orig. post:

    >Tonight Partition Wizard (bootable) tells me there is an unallocated 7.84 mb logical partition occupying sectors 0-16064. Neither 7 nor XP reports the existence of this space.

    At the beginning of the disk (not the end).

    I tried GParted in case Part. Wiz. was inaccurate. Same result.

    Breakdown of space on disk device:

    Unallocated ----- 7.84 mb
    SS1_P1_W7] ------- 78 gb - Win7
    SS1_P2_XP] ------- 80 ---- XP
    SS1_P3_Data] ----- 80 ---- New Data
    Unallocated ----- 204
    SS1_WDP2_W2K_PRD - 23 ---- Old Data

    All is per my design except the 7.84 mb.

    P
    Last edited by Puddin Man; 09 Feb 2011 at 18:31. Reason: gb
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  2. Posts : 22,814
    W 7 64-bit Ultimate
       #12

    Hello mate.



    Sometime when using Partition Wizard to resize an existing partition the slider slips at one end or the other and leaves a small unallocated space and it doesn't get noticed until after the operation is complete, at least that has been my experience.

    I've been all through this many times while working with the Partition Wizard program; you can reclaim the space using PW into an existing partition if you choose with no ill effects.

    I'm aware you have removed/reclaimed the SysResv partition but there is documentation on the method to use with Partition Wizard; have a look at Option Two of this tutorial at the link below and be sure to post back with any further questions you may have and to keep us informed.


    Partition Wizard : Use the Bootable CD
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  3. Posts : 1,127
    Win7U 64 RTM
       #13

    It appears to happen with Acronis Disk Director also. Only my system partition seems to have escaped. I've just left them in place...it's never been a problem here:

    Unallocated 7.84 mb space materializes (from Outer Space?)-8mb-partitions.jpg
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  4. Posts : 63
    Win7 Home Prem. 64 OEM
    Thread Starter
       #14

    Bare Foot Kid said:
    Hello mate.

    Sometime when using Partition Wizard to resize an existing partition the slider slips at one end or the other and leaves a small unallocated space and it doesn't get noticed until after the operation is complete, at least that has been my experience.
    Your experience. Not mine.

    Bare Foot Kid said:
    I've been all through this many times while working with the Partition Wizard program; you can reclaim the space using PW into an existing partition if you choose with no ill effects.
    That's not the issue.

    Bare Foot Kid said:
    I'm aware you have removed/reclaimed the SysResv partition but there is documentation on the method to use with Partition Wizard; have a look at Option Two of this tutorial at the link below and be sure to post back with any further questions you may have and to keep us informed.

    Partition Wizard : Use the Bootable CD
    I probably followed your Step Two (or something very similar) when I consolidated. My finger didn't slip. There was no unallocated space before my Win7 partition when I finished. This consolidation was done last summer.

    No offence, but nothing in your response is relevant to my little problem.

    Is it possible that Win7 is doing something unpredictable/illogical that y'all are -not- familiar with?

    P
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  5. Posts : 63
    Win7 Home Prem. 64 OEM
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       #15

    James Colbert said:
    It appears to happen with Acronis Disk Director also. Only my system partition seems to have escaped. I've just left them in place...it's never been a problem here:

    Unallocated 7.84 mb space materializes (from Outer Space?)-8mb-partitions.jpg
    Your screenshot was truncated: I can see only a small part of it.

    You have 4 of them? All are exactly 7.84 mb? Preceding what kind of partitions? Etc, etc.

    Would like to see the full
    screenshot.

    Thanks,
    P
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  6. Posts : 797
    Windows 7 Ultimate (x64)
       #16

    Quote from the SSD alignment tutorial:

    "If you install Windows7 on a brand new SSD, you need not make any special arrangements because the Windows7 installer will do the alignment for you. For Vista you are lucky because the start sector happens to match a SSD page. For XP the start sector is 126 which would be in the middle of a SSD page, thus a prior alignment is required. "

    Is that what you're talking about? I don't have XP anymore, so I can't confirm that this is indeed your 7 MB (why are you at all worried about 7 MB, if you don't mind my asking?)

    I have just installed Windows 7 on my new SSD. This is a multi-boot, so sure enough the installer has created a "System Reserved" partition (about 100 MB), while of course the rest of the drive is formatted to a single partition. Supposedly this system reserved partition is needed for the proper functioning of the multi-boot. I am sure I can get rid of it, but I don't think it's worth my time.

    So my advice - leave these small chunks alone and move on.
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  7. Posts : 22,814
    W 7 64-bit Ultimate
       #17

    Oh you want a manufactured issue, well have at it.
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  8. Posts : 66
    Ultimate 7
       #18

    Puddin Man said:
    diehrd said:
    ...
    CAUSE
    Some space at the end of the disk is reserved by Setup in case you later want to upgrade the disk to a dynamic disk. ...
    From the orig. post:

    >Tonight Partition Wizard (bootable) tells me there is an unallocated 7.84 mb logical partition occupying sectors 0-16064. Neither 7 nor XP reports the existence of this space.

    At the beginning of the disk (not the end).

    I tried GParted in case Part. Wiz. was inaccurate. Same result.

    Breakdown of space on disk device:

    Unallocated ----- 7.84 mb
    SS1_P1_W7] ------- 78 gb - Win7
    SS1_P2_XP] ------- 80 ---- XP
    SS1_P3_Data] ----- 80 ---- New Data
    Unallocated ----- 204
    SS1_WDP2_W2K_PRD - 23 ---- Old Data

    All is per my design except the 7.84 mb.

    P

    YOUR making a huge deal out of something every XP install does , has done , and always will do ..

    alphanumeric in post 5 answered your question ,, I also posted an answer that was in line with his. But for some reason your not accepting it or not reading peoples replies.

    If you want a answer worded different then those we posted go to windows web site and start searching as well as google and search there , because the answer is is about as hard to find as air

    Some disk space is reserved by Setup in case you later want to upgrade the disk to a dynamic disk. Dynamic disk information is saved at the end of the disk. The amount that is reserved is a minimum of one cylinder, or 1MB, whichever is greater. One cylinder can be up to 8MB, depending on drive geometry and translation
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  9. Posts : 63
    Win7 Home Prem. 64 OEM
    Thread Starter
       #19

    Blow it off, or rant, or <whatever>, it makes no difference.

    No explanation given here fits all the facts.

    To repeat:

    Breakdown of space on disk device:

    Unallocated ----- 7.84 mb
    SS1_P1_W7] ------- 78 gb - Windows 7
    SS1_P2_XP] ------- 80 ---- XP
    SS1_P3_Data] ----- 80 ---- New Data
    Unallocated ----- 204
    SS1_WDP2_W2K_PRD - 23 ---- Old Data

    All is per my design except the 7.84 mb. The config of disk 2 is the same as disk 1.

    Running Partition Wizard bootable CD, I delete SS2_P1_W7 78.08 gb, and copy SS1_P1_W7 (exact same size and data) in its place.

    The result is reported as 78.08 gb, and the 7.84 is no longer reported.

    As if it wasn't really there in the first place.

    Y'all don't even blink when your systems do something unpredictable like this. It's very likely to come back and bite ya where it counts some day. :-(

    P
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  10. Posts : 4,466
    Windows 10 Education 64 bit
       #20

    As far as my systems go, its not unpredictable. I know what it is, what its for, and why its there. Same deal for the 100 mb system reserved partition Windows 7 puts in place. Your unallocated chunk is just at the front of the drive instead of the end of the drive. Likely because you installed windows 7 then windows XP instead of the other way around. Either way its "Unallocated" space, meaning there is nothing in there. Its unpartitioned, unformatted space on the hard drive. IMHO your making a mountain out of a mole hill.
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