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Windows 7: How to get rid of "Do you want to allow..."?

10 May 2011   #81
Mystere

Windows 7 64 bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chrysalis View Post
Of course those saying whitelist would be very bad seem to have forgotten that microsoft did improve windows 7 UAC by whitelisting internal system files, thats all they did, it was very simple. So windows 7 already has UAC whitelist it just isnt configurable.
Microsoft considered a general whitelist, but they rejected it because they had several scenarios where it could be abused.

Linux does many things that wouldn't fly with Windows because Linux can assume it's users are highly technical, and know what is and isn't correct to execute. The requirements to chmod files as executable, for instance, is one of the hoops a user has to jump through to enable malware.

This is fine security, but doesn't fly with less experienced users. Microsoft choose to only whitelist system apps that ship with the OS, and even then not all of them are white listed. Only common use ones (like changing the time of day). You'll notice that Microsoft doesn't whitelist Office, or any other tools that don't ship with the OS, even ones they write.

The problem with a whitelist is that it gives developers yet another excuse to avoid updating their software to conform to the guidelines. A developer will say "Just whitelist it, and we don't have to do anything".

The only way software will become more secure is if developers starting writing more secure software. Continuing to coddle them, and add hacks to the system to allow them to work properly just continues the mess that Windows has been in for decades.


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12 May 2011   #82
Tepid

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

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The problem with a whitelist is that it gives developers yet another excuse to avoid updating their software to conform to the guidelines. A developer will say "Just whitelist it, and we don't have to do anything".
Yep, which is exactly what I was saying. There are still a lot of Devs out there that say,

"just turn off UAC and it will work".

Wrong answer.

Quote:
The only way software will become more secure is if developers starting writing more secure software. Continuing to coddle them, and add hacks to the system to allow them to work properly just continues the mess that Windows has been in for decades.
Which is one of the reason so many people had problems with Vista and still 7, but it wasn't Vista's fault, it was the 3rd party devs faults for not coding properly.

To reiterate it again.

Stop supporting Dev's that create the problems with UAC. Eventually they will start coding properly and the problems will go away or be far less an issue.
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23 Jul 2011   #83
LeChat

Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit
 
 

Strangely enough this is only happening with Internet Explorer with a new user that I setup for myself. If I sign-in using my old user I don't get the "do you want to allow this program to make changes" message. Any suggestions?
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23 Jul 2011   #84
legacy7955

win 7 home premium 64 bit
 
 

I'm pretty savvy compared to most PC users, BUT I am glad for the UAC operating just the way it does.

I'm happy to settle for an extra key stroke here and there to stop my system from becoming seriously damaged and then having to spend hours, maybe days trying to recover it.

M$, don't change a thing about the default settings or the way UAC works!
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17 Sep 2011   #85
jimg

7 ultimate
 
 

If I may get somewhat back to the original problem-

I have Firefox Portable installed.
I was not getting the message.
I changed the name of the icon on the desktop from Firefox Portable.exe to just firefox, because I don't like multi-line ugly names on my icons.
Windows no longer could find the icon for the program.
I tried the normal method of setting the icon, pointing to the exe.
Windows could find the icon within the exe, let me select it, but still would not show it on the desktop.
I extracted the icon, saved it as Firefox.ico, and selected that at the icon. Now the proper icon shows on the desktop.
But.... Now when I run Firefox, windows gives me the stupid message box every time. It never did it before. I've tried a lot of things and nothing seems to solve the problem. How do I get rid of the dang message box. Obviously it a simple setting somewhere or it wouldn't have worked before.
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17 Sep 2011   #86
jimg

7 ultimate
 
 

More info-
I just did a system restore from two days ago, and it works properly. But, of course, it has the original long ugly icon caption.

This problem should be solvable without screwing with UAC !
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19 Sep 2011   #87
Mystere

Windows 7 64 bit SP1
 
 

You are changing the exe name. Put Firefox Portable.exe somewhere, such as in your program files, or downloads, or something. Then create a shortcut to it, and put that on your desktop. You can rename the shortcut without renaming the exe
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19 Sep 2011   #88
jimg

7 ultimate
 
 

Thanks for replying. It was a shortcut, to firefox.exe within my portable apps folder on the H: drive.

After the restore, I again changed the name of the shortcut, and windows would not apply the icon. I again pointed the shortcut to the icon within firefox, and this time it worked, for two boot ups. Then windows forgot again. I ignored it, and it was okay the next time I booted, so it's rather a flakey situation. I haven't had the message that was the original point of this tread yet, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I can live without the icon occasionally, so long as it doesn't bug me with message boxes
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19 Sep 2011   #89
Mystere

Windows 7 64 bit SP1
 
 

In that case, the problem is that your shortcut is to an item on removable storage. When windows boots, it doesn't load the storage until some later time. So the icon "link" gets broken.

You can also try rebuilding the icon cache.

Icon Cache - Rebuild
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07 Apr 2012   #90
KLR71

Windows 7
 
 
My solution

The only solution to this that worked for me was this:

Elevated Program Shortcut without UAC Prompt - Create

OR

Elevated Program Shortcut - Create for Standard User

Hopefully this will be of use to some.
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