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Windows 7: Some questions about different builds (VL, N)

14 Feb 2011   #11
McDougal

Windows 8 Pro x64; Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 on VirtualBox
 
 

Sorry for the misunderstanding....I do understand what TechNet is for. Now granted I did buy it to get Windows 7 + Office cheaper for the family, but I understand that its meant for testing purposes. I will not sell the information at all, or even let other friends/relatives use it. If I understand correctly, MS doesn't care if home users subscribe, all they care about is if you don't sell their information, right? If so, then I don't see any reason why I shouldn't have bought it.


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14 Feb 2011   #12
GEWB

Linux (Mint is primary) / XP, Win7 Home / Win7 Pro, Ultimate / Win8.1 / Win10 archived VM
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by McDougal View Post
Now all I need to figure out is how to backup outlook stuff. The e-mails aren't really important, since they're already on gmail. Its all the extra folders and organization that's important. Is there a way to backup that stuff? And I still need to backup all the iPod stuff too .....
Your Outlook stuff is in a PST file - one PST file for each user. You can also have separate PST files for specific reasons. For my work, I have about 10 separate PST files based on the category of emails.

Close Outlook and copy that PST file where you wish. (Note: Outlook PST file can become unstable when it exceeds 2GB.)

As to your iPod stuff, be careful - purchased music is a "problem" so follow directions to the letter! (Google is your friend.)

Regards,
GEWB
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14 Feb 2011   #13
DeaconFrost

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

I'm not pointing the finger directly at you. If Microsoft lets just anyone purchase it, then so be it. Using it at home for family is far less "wrong" than selling the extra keys on eBay. My thinking falls in line with most of the IT crowd, where we aren't happy that our total number of keys have been cut in half due to the misuse. What I see happening in the future is that we'll have to provide eligibility verification in order to subscribe, just like such sites as TechSoup need to verify my company's non-profit status each year.

The only tutorial you need to install Windows 7 is the guide here to make a bootable flash drive to install from. The rest is just answering simple questions. One tip I always give, is to never enter your key in during the install. No need to burn an activation until you know the system is up and running. If it is your first time using Windows 7, definitely don't use the key during the install. This gives you at least 30 days to play around with the system and break it, without activation.
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14 Feb 2011   #14
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

McDougal...Like I said, what you are doing is likely just fine and dandy. All Microsoft cares about is that they sold something to you and you didn't pirate it. However, some will interpret the program as only for testing by IT professionals and thus not intended for home use. These people would not feel comfortable buying Technet rather than buying a retail license for their Microsoft software.

Personally, I think that the retail prices are ludicrous considering the sheer amount of stuff you get with a lower priced subscription to Technet. I think that technet should cost a minimum of $1,000 for what you get. Either that, or copies of Windows should be like $29.95 at retail.

Microsoft clearly knows that "non IT professionals" are using Technet software. And they don't make any "real" effort to screen out normal retail users from purchasing it. This alone says to me, that using it for home use is likely just fine. But don't sell your keys, give to friends, etc. If they want in on the action, they should buy their own copy...it's dirt cheap.

Note: I do feel that if you use "technet" software on your personal computers, you should maintain the subscription year after year. I know many technet subscribers don't agree with me on that point....but considering the super low price, it seems reasonable to me. But hey, it's just my opinion.
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14 Feb 2011   #15
McDougal

Windows 8 Pro x64; Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 on VirtualBox
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by GEWB View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by McDougal View Post
Now all I need to figure out is how to backup outlook stuff. The e-mails aren't really important, since they're already on gmail. Its all the extra folders and organization that's important. Is there a way to backup that stuff? And I still need to backup all the iPod stuff too .....
Your Outlook stuff is in a PST file - one PST file for each user. You can also have separate PST files for specific reasons. For my work, I have about 10 separate PST files based on the category of emails.

Close Outlook and copy that PST file where you wish. (Note: Outlook PST file can become unstable when it exceeds 2GB.)

As to your iPod stuff, be careful - purchased music is a "problem" so follow directions to the letter! (Google is your friend.)

Regards,
GEWB
Okay thanks, I thought I heard something about PST files....so I just backup those and I'm all set? I also think I just found something on the iPod stuff.....

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
I'm not pointing the finger directly at you. If Microsoft lets just anyone purchase it, then so be it. Using it at home for family is far less "wrong" than selling the extra keys on eBay. My thinking falls in line with most of the IT crowd, where we aren't happy that our total number of keys have been cut in half due to the misuse. What I see happening in the future is that we'll have to provide eligibility verification in order to subscribe, just like such sites as TechSoup need to verify my company's non-profit status each year.

The only tutorial you need to install Windows 7 is the guide here to make a bootable flash drive to install from. The rest is just answering simple questions. One tip I always give, is to never enter your key in during the install. No need to burn an activation until you know the system is up and running. If it is your first time using Windows 7, definitely don't use the key during the install. This gives you at least 30 days to play around with the system and break it, without activation.
No problem, that definitely makes sense, I'll try my best to remember to not activate right away....maybe I'll even print out the tutorial lol.....

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
McDougal...Like I said, what you are doing is likely just fine and dandy. All Microsoft cares about is that they sold something to you and you didn't pirate it. However, some will interpret the program as only for testing by IT professionals and thus not intended for home use. These people would not feel comfortable buying Technet rather than buying a retail license for their Microsoft software.

Personally, I think that the retail prices are ludicrous considering the sheer amount of stuff you get with a lower priced subscription to Technet. I think that technet should cost a minimum of $1,000 for what you get. Either that, or copies of Windows should be like $29.95 at retail.

Microsoft clearly knows that "non IT professionals" are using Technet software. And they don't make any "real" effort to screen out normal retail users from purchasing it. This alone says to me, that using it for home use is likely just fine. But don't sell your keys, give to friends, etc. If they want in on the action, they should buy their own copy...it's dirt cheap.

Note: I do feel that if you use "technet" software on your personal computers, you should maintain the subscription year after year. I know many technet subscribers don't agree with me on that point....but considering the super low price, it seems reasonable to me. But hey, it's just my opinion.
I agree, the subscription is surprisingly cheap, considering all you get, retail (especially office) price seems like a rip-off. I may re-subscribe after a year, depending on how good Windows 8 is, this was a pretty big chunk of money for me.
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15 Feb 2011   #16
McDougal

Windows 8 Pro x64; Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 on VirtualBox
 
 

Still can't install anything yet ......its very complicated. After I received a e-mail receipt, I also received an "Order Pending Processing" email. Then I found out that my credit card company's fraud department identified the purchase as "highly suspicious", and it was discharged. Now I have to wait for MS to reply and help me out, because the credit card company refuses to do anything without MS's input.

*sigh*.......

Good news....I finally got everything except outlook files backed up using SyncToy ! Still a little confused about the PST files, where do I find them?
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15 Feb 2011   #17
DeaconFrost

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

You can usually find them by searching for *.pst or if you go into Outlook, to your Account properties, there should be a tab for data file with a path.
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18 Feb 2011   #18
McDougal

Windows 8 Pro x64; Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 on VirtualBox
 
 

okay, so i finally got my subscription working and now have windows 7 ultimate 64-bit along with office professional plus 2010 installed on my laptop . however, just for fun, i thought about dual-booting windows xp, except there's one problem. i need sata drivers, i plan on integrating them, but i can't find the correct drivers. my drive is a Hitachi HTS545025B9A300 if this helps at all, the hitachi site isn't useful (already checked, neither is the asus site), is there another way to find these drivers?
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