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Windows 7: 7 the Best?

15 Feb 2011   #21
PwnFrnzy

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
 
 

Windows 7 is very well constructed, but like others have been saying over and over it stall has it's faults. The only slap to the face I think Microsoft delivered to Windows 7 was all the validation stuff. I've seen people go insane when their genuine system goes non-genuine when they boot-up one day.
But looking past that and hoping I won't have to phone Microsoft (again) for a new key, then I'd say Windows 7 is still awesome.


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15 Feb 2011   #22
Maguscreed

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Windows 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by unifex View Post
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My problems with vista started immediately upon installation.
It took nearly 4 1/2 months for proper SLI support to come from a combination of nvidia driver updates and microsoft updates.

I think this was the key to Vista's failure. Personally I never had a problem with it, but then I have never installed it on an older machine. I got it factory installed on a new machine - and there were no problems. This approach has always worked for me in the past - I don't upgrade to a newer OS, just replace the PC (not when the new OS comes out, but when it's time to replace the machine) with whatever OS they happen to be installing at the moment. But lots of people tried to install it on their existing machines - and got into lots of compatibility problems.

Windows 7 was the first OS that I installed on an existing machine. That was that Vista machine. Vista is still there, but I hardly ever use it.

Finally, for the similarity with Macs ... There is one particular feature of Macs that I can't accept - there is basically one toolbar at the top of the screen that changes its content depending on which window is currently active. Windows themselves do not carry toolbars, just some close/minimize buttons. This is the show stopper for me - I will not willingly use a Mac until they change that (which is probably never). Therefore I do not agree that Windows 7 looks like a Mac.
Well see that's the thing, we are dealing with the same system I am using now, short the 8800's one of which I sold the other of which is in the media machine in the front room now, and win 7 has offered only one minor issue that I overcame within a hour or two of installation. (lack of proper support from asus was the actual cause, fortunately it's a nforce board so nvidia had updated chipset drivers) I've had no complaints about performance with this machine (which was a beast new, but now is starting to become dated) In fact, if anything I've had an increase in basic apps and gaming since making the switch from vista. Yet, another reason I'm far more fond of win 7. Even that old media machine (fx60, 8800gtx, near ancient dfi lanparty pro - expert board) runs fine in win 7, despite it really chugging along with vista.

In regards to the statement about the DRM. DRM in general is getting too heavy and really doing very little to prevent piracy. Though in my personal experience most the people pirating simply don't have the financial means to update properly, and do it as much from need as from a position of wanting to 'steal' a copy. Personally there are two things I would never under any circumstances consider a pirated copy of, and those are my security suite and my operating system. There are just too many unknowns. It's a touchy subject especially when discussed openly, but not unlike child abuse or abortion you can't really expect to do anything about it, if no one is willing to discuss it.
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15 Feb 2011   #23
gregrocker

 

A big problem with Vista is that manufacturers decided to sit on their hardware and not update the drivers in order to force users to buy newer hardware, leaving MS scrambling to build stock drivers for installer.

This was one of the signal lessons learned for Win7. MS spent a fortune paying manufacturers to build the drivers under the Windows Hardware Quality Labs program, so that they could have them first in their installer with newer available quickly via optional Windows Updates.

Today Vista benefits from many of the Win7 developments via it's Service Packs and is a much more tolerable OS.
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15 Feb 2011   #24
Maguscreed

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
A big problem with Vista is that manufacturers decided to sit on their hardware and not update the drivers in order to force users to buy newer hardware, leaving MS scrambling to build stock drivers for installer.

This was one of the signal lessons learned for Win7. MS spent a fortune paying manufacturers to build the drivers under the Windows Hardware Quality Labs program, so that they could have them first in their installer with newer available quickly via optional Windows Updates.

Today Vista benefits from many of the Win7 developments via it's Service Packs and is a much more tolerable OS.
I never argued that. The damage to it's reputation was done from the start though, of course apple jumping on it as a marketing ploy didn't help people's view of the operating system either. By the time sp1 was released pretty much every notable problem with it was fixed. It just came too late.
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15 Feb 2011   #25
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

It's hard to erase a first impression. With Vista, the 3rd party vendors weren't ready for drivers and such and that caused lots of problem right at the start. It got a bad reputation immediately and it never recovered. It did get better with SP1 and was reasonably solid. However, there have still been situations at work where Vista just goes wonky and when that happens I simply replace it with Windows 7 and things have gone smooth since. I don't seem to run into unexplainable issues with Windows 7.
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15 Feb 2011   #26
gregrocker

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Maguscreed View Post
I never argued that.
Wasn't referring to your post, just commenting.
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15 Feb 2011   #27
MWRed

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

I've only had 7 for a few months and love it. BUT....i'm in the minority apparently that loves Vista also, if not more. Never a single problem with it, and it's on an older machine even.

I will say, i'd rather have 7 or Vista than XP now. 7 has it's little things that I just don't like, but all in all it's wonderful in general.
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16 Feb 2011   #28
KazeNoKoe23

Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MWRed View Post
I've only had 7 for a few months and love it. BUT....i'm in the minority apparently that loves Vista also, if not more. Never a single problem with it, and it's on an older machine even.
I'm definitely with you here!
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16 Feb 2011   #29
Maguscreed

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 x64
 
 

Maybe not so large a minority, I know many common users that are actually quite fond of vista. I just never was, my initial problems with it were a source of a lot of pain and troubleshooting. I suffered one minor issue upgrading to 7 on this machine and none at all on the even older machine I use as a media streamer.

...I guess I'm just saying everyone has their reasons, and no one is really wrong in this kind of thing.
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16 Feb 2011   #30
WDAexodus

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

I never used Vista intill after I had Windows 7. My wife's workstation has Vista and other then UAC being a pain it runs well. But I was one of the one's that set back in the beginning to see what Vista was going to do and after countless negitive comments decided XP was going to stay on my machine. If it wasn't for the beta/RTM for 7 I might still be using XP but thankfully I didn't.
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