For everyone concerned about buying the upgrade disk

Too bad MS isn't giving the same type of discount for Ultimate users.

NUBEE1 said:

Too bad MS isn't giving the same type of discount for Ultimate users.

I know, I don't understand why they aren't. It would benefit them in the long run, the way I see it.

harpua said:

It is too bad. Guess they figure that those who simply must have Ultimate would be willing to pay full price for the privilege.

Yeah I totally agree that they should have done the deal for ultimate if they were gonna go ahead and do it for the other two.

Arkhan said:

This is really sweet. This used to work in 98 and even XP, but they stopped it in vista; the upgrade-from version had to be installed on the HDD.

Being able to use original media to authorise a direct clean update install will be really goddamn useful, and I'm really pleased to see it come back.

Yeah, except what about all the people who have their OS on an OEM machine without an original system disc? Are those people going to be able to type in the product key instead of inserting a non-existent disc? Or will the Win7 upgrade process read the old OS license on the system before it reformats the partition? I understand that I can probably do the double-install thing with the upgrade disc, but since MS is telling everyone that they can "upgrade" from XP to 7 but must do a "clean install", I am curious to know exactly how they plan to implement this for those users who do not have a physical XP disc.

Damon

DWillens said:

Yeah, except what about all the people who have their OS on an OEM machine without an original system disc? Are those people going to be able to type in the product key instead of inserting a non-existent disc? Or will the Win7 upgrade process read the old OS license on the system before it reformats the partition? I understand that I can probably do the double-install thing with the upgrade disc, but since MS is telling everyone that they can "upgrade" from XP to 7 but must do a "clean install", I am curious to know exactly how they plan to implement this for those users who do not have a physical XP disc.

Damon

If you start the upgrade process inside the OS, it confirms that you are upgrade eligable before it gives you the option to clean install. So that wouldn't be a problem.

grouchpunk08 said:

If you start the upgrade process inside the OS, it confirms that you are upgrade eligable before it gives you the option to clean install. So that wouldn't be a problem.

Could your reply be a little faster next time?
Thanks!

Damon

DWillens said:

Could your reply be a little faster next time?
Thanks!

Damon

If I try hard enough, maybe :) lol

grouchpunk08 said:

Also, you don't necessarily need the previous OS installed. They told me that you can Start the process, and if there is no previous OS installed on your system, then it will simply ask you to insert the previous OS's DVD, and that is enough to confirm that you do have the previous OS.

So I am guessing that the installation process goes something like this. (feel free to correct or confirm for me)

Installing Win7 in a new or formatted HD with the upgrade disk.

1. Insert Installation DVD and reboot.
2. Select install now (via upgrade selection) and choose the OS version
3. The installation realizes that there is no previous OS to upgrade from and asks for the previous OS disk.
4. Insert the previous disk and let setup recognize the disk
5. Installation resumes and performs a complete install instead of an upgrade.

Maybe I mixed or missed a step, but the main things that I am looking for is that with this method are:
1. you do not need to provide the previous (upgrading from) OS key, just the disk
2. you are only installing Windows 7 once, instead of two times like you would with the other Windows 7 clean install method.

If this is true then it makes more sense to install with the upgrade disk this way as it would save time right ?

Thanks for the info.

Here is the way that I see it (legal/reality/morality)

I bought a new HP in January. It did not come with a Vista disk, and I did not make a recovery disk. The way I see it I paid for Vista with my HP purchase (I dont care what they say at HP)

I pre-ordered Win7 Pro. So right now I am running a Beta version of 7. Come October I will have an "upgrade" disk to use without a physical "previous" version of a windows OS. So I can use the "double install" method of install with my copy of Win7 RC.

Or I can use a .iso image from a few hundred "friends" to install my 100% legit paid for copy of windows7 on my laptop that HAD a legit 100% paid for version of vista.

Why wont MS just cut through the crap, release a full 100% retail version without the BS "upgrade"?