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Windows 7: A Method To Avoid Forced Restarts?

18 Mar 2011   #11
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by FliGi7 View Post
No computer is totally immune to freezes. However, freezes that are major enough to freeze the whole system rather than just their own process are indicative of more serious problems. Such freezes are never an expected or sustainable action of a healthy operating system. I know you have been conditioned to be used to it, but it's not normal and you really should at least be backing up important data on the system and figured out a possibly safer and better solution to your program installs and testing. Just my opinion, though, as I'd rather help fix this now than a couple months from now when we're trying to figure out how to recover your system from a total failure or you're spending wasted hours or days doing it.
I do run regular backups, but that doesn't address the question. The problem programs are not necessarily a matter of the method of install, because some have worked without problems for quite some time, before issues appear. In some cases, reinstalling them fixes the problem, but in others not.


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18 Mar 2011   #12
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
One lockup can potentially lead to another. The more lockups you have the better the odds get that you will have yet another one. The other program problems may be the result of the first glitch and not an actual fault with that program. The more you have the more unstable your system will become. At the very least I think I would do a sfc/scannow, if you haven't already.
I ran that just a couple of days ago, and I fixed the only issue that it pointed out, and it has not improved these other problems.
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18 Mar 2011   #13
FliGi7

XP / Win7 x64 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by FliGi7 View Post
No computer is totally immune to freezes. However, freezes that are major enough to freeze the whole system rather than just their own process are indicative of more serious problems. Such freezes are never an expected or sustainable action of a healthy operating system. I know you have been conditioned to be used to it, but it's not normal and you really should at least be backing up important data on the system and figured out a possibly safer and better solution to your program installs and testing. Just my opinion, though, as I'd rather help fix this now than a couple months from now when we're trying to figure out how to recover your system from a total failure or you're spending wasted hours or days doing it.
I do run regular backups, but that doesn't address the question. The problem programs are not necessarily a matter of the method of install, because some have worked without problems for quite some time, before issues appear. In some cases, reinstalling them fixes the problem, but in others not.
I mean this in a very literal and absolutely non-sarcastic way, but so what? The bottom line here is that there is such a history of 3rd party programs freezing your system that you consider it to be normal. I just hope nothing more serious happens. I've suffered due to problems I've postponed or downplayed in the past so I can only hope to steer others away before that happens to them.
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18 Mar 2011   #14
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

I appreciate your concern, but the gravity of the situation and how to deal with it is something that I must decide for myself. If I err in how I decide, it is I that will have to suffer the consequences. I understand that your comments are intended to be helpful, but they do not address the question that I posted.
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18 Mar 2011   #15
Tepid

Win 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by FliGi7 View Post
Well, you are risking corruption to the system with the constant freezes and forced reboots. Those can easily corrupt an essential Windows file in use at the point of freezing that gets corrupted and forces you to have to reinstall the OS. I would really address that sooner rather than later.
I will second this advice.

No, there is no app that can help you recover the system and do a proper shutdown, once it is locked up and frozen, and you are unable to get to Task Manager by hitting CTRL+ALT+DELETE

If you had an app that remained unaffected working in the background, then that was out of shear luck, which is why it did not work all the time.

If there were such an application that would work to do a proper clean shutdown on full system lockup 100% of the time, then it would be well known, or in Windows itself already.
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19 Mar 2011   #16
Layback Bear

Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709
 
 

Well said Tepid!! Most of us at one time or another have had this problem. IMHO most of us find what is causing the problem and repair it. To the best of my knowledge there is no magic program or button that can do this on a 100% freeze.
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