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Windows 7: A Method To Avoid Forced Restarts?

18 Mar 2011   #1
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 
A Method To Avoid Forced Restarts?

lately, I have had more than my share of instances requiring a forced restart, because of one thing or another locking up the system, so that none of the usual methods of restarting are available. I think that I already know the answer, but nevertheless, I will ask...is there any hardware/software that can perform a NORMAL restart on a frozen system?


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18 Mar 2011   #2
FliGi7

XP / Win7 x64 Pro
 
 

If a system is frozen to the point of not being able to interact with system clicks or commands, then nothing can help you other than your index finger on the power button.

If you are having forced restarts because of things you're testing, have you considered doing so in a VM instead?

Otherwise, it might be time for a clean re-install.
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18 Mar 2011   #3
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

It may be time for a clean install, but not the time that I'm willing to do it. I'm not positive that the problem is with the OS, because these occurences happen when trying to work with a number of 3rd party programs. VM is not something that I know anything about, and am not really wanting to learn. In the past, I did clean installs only when forced to, but w7 has never gotten to that point yet.

The reason for my question is that there was a time when I could restart the PC, using the remote for my Audigy sound card. But even then it was hit or miss as to whether that would work. Yet, even if it only works part of the time, that seems to mean that it is possible to devise something more reliable.
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18 Mar 2011   #4
FliGi7

XP / Win7 x64 Pro
 
 

Well, if you do decide to check out how to run a VM, it's super easy and you're a perfect candidate for using them by the sounds of your third party software use and the instabilities that sometimes come with them.

I wasn't aware you could do such a restart from a remote, but if it's been possible in the past, perhaps someone else with that experience can chime in and help.
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18 Mar 2011   #5
Dwarf

Windows 8.1 Pro RTM x64
 
 

What 3rd party programs?
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18 Mar 2011   #6
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dwarf View Post
What 3rd party programs?
Kyodai Mahjong, XMedia Converter, Movie Collector, and a bunch of others that I can't remember at the moment. I fixed the problem with Movie Collector, as far as it freezing up things on opening, but it still sometimes freezes itself doing certain functions.

With the exception of Kyodai, I think that the freezes are somewhat typical of a lot of programs, but with the game, it is while initiating DirectX.

In the end, it really doesn't matter which programs or why, I would just like having an alternative to the main restart button, so that I don't feel that I'm risking some kind of corruption to the system.
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18 Mar 2011   #7
FliGi7

XP / Win7 x64 Pro
 
 

Well, you are risking corruption to the system with the constant freezes and forced reboots. Those can easily corrupt an essential Windows file in use at the point of freezing that gets corrupted and forces you to have to reinstall the OS. I would really address that sooner rather than later.
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18 Mar 2011   #8
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

I agree, except that to describe it as "constant" freezes and reboots isn't quite accurate. I have learned how to avoid these sometimes, but there is always exceptions. I do not believe that any computer is totally immune to the problem, it is a matter of degree, and the urgency of the situation can only be determined by the user. In my case, it is urgent enough to ask questions, but not enough for taking drastic action. I do have my keyboard mapped to both a restart and shutdown shortcuts, but naturally they are useless if the system is not accepting any keyboard input. I'm just hoping that there is a way to access those same shortcuts when the keyboard and mouse are not functioning.
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18 Mar 2011   #9
FliGi7

XP / Win7 x64 Pro
 
 

No computer is totally immune to freezes. However, freezes that are major enough to freeze the whole system rather than just their own process are indicative of more serious problems. Such freezes are never an expected or sustainable action of a healthy operating system. I know you have been conditioned to be used to it, but it's not normal and you really should at least be backing up important data on the system and figured out a possibly safer and better solution to your program installs and testing. Just my opinion, though, as I'd rather help fix this now than a couple months from now when we're trying to figure out how to recover your system from a total failure or you're spending wasted hours or days doing it.
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18 Mar 2011   #10
alphanumeric

Windows 10 Education 64 bit
 
 

One lockup can potentially lead to another. The more lockups you have the better the odds get that you will have yet another one. The other program problems may be the result of the first glitch and not an actual fault with that program. The more you have the more unstable your system will become. At the very least I think I would do a sfc/scannow, if you haven't already.
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