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Windows 7: Windows 7 File Permissions are too hard for me to figure out.

29 Mar 2011   #11

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate

Sorry, we get dozens and dozens of people here that complain about permissions and "demand" full control of their machines (not realizing they have it if they would just stop pounding the KB) while also complaining about MS insecurity, and demading that MS make everything completely open and easy and yet compeltely secure. It's a complete incongruence and I guess I'm getting a little overly tired of it :)

I apologize but your ranting gave off those vibes pretty strong and I mistakenly lumped you lumped you into that category and replied in kind...

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29 Mar 2011   #12

XP / Win7 x64 Pro

I think fseal's statement was a good one that should just be taken at face value with no inference of incompetency. They are valid points about running and working with a server and always good to keep in mind. It will serve good purpose for others coming across this thread that may not be as competent as the OP.
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29 Mar 2011   #13


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by fseal View Post
I apologize but your ranting gave off those vibes pretty strong and I mistakenly lumped you lumped you into that category and replied in kind...
I'm a slightly different category who demands intuitive solutions. More so, I'd like to see the settings work as expected when I truthfully feel I've researched and applied them all correctly. You must sympathize with this one.

So do we have any more things I might try, realizing now only .exe and .dll files are affected?
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29 Mar 2011   #14

Windows 7 Ultimate x64

Is the actual path \\server\d$\dataFolder? Some sub folder on an administrative share. it's not a folder within the Windows or Program Files directory, is it?

With file permissions it's
1). NTFS: if you are in 2 groups, it's the most restrictive group
2). Sharing Permissions: if you are listed twice, or in 2 groups, it's whichever is more retrictive
3). And if NTFS and Share Permissions are different, the most restrictive one wins.

In this case, I don't think it's an issue of the above since txt files and such can be copied. It seems that it's protected files which cannot be copied.

Is the "Internet Explorer Enhanced Security Configuration" option enabled on the 2003 server, in Add/Remove Programs, Windows Components? I've had many strange things with that in the past, and almost always disable it immediately on a new build.
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05 Apr 2011   #15


I see what you're saying about whichever is more restrictive wins. So I can't have an ALLUSERS group and an ADMINS group both listed, where the admin also exists in the ALLUSERS group?

Uninstalling Internet Explorer Enhanced Security Configuration did nothing (pre-reboot).
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05 Apr 2011   #16
Microsoft MVP


It says you need permission from the destination file.

So take ownership or fully permission yourself.
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05 Apr 2011   #17

Windows 7 Ultimate RTM (Technet)

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jpdepucci11 View Post
I know this post is not helpful but I wanted to say I agree with you epheterson. When downloading any file in windows 7 premium or enterprise - being a system admin- You cannot even save the file to a folder other than in your profile path- my documents. How lame is that?

I have yet to find a fix for that- but it is very annoying.
Absolutely untrue. You can save a file anywhere you like other than the root of the C: drive.
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06 Apr 2011   #18

Win 7 Ult + Starter, XP Pro +Home, 2kAS, Linux Mint 8, SuperOS

I have no difficulty saving to c:\ either!!
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06 Apr 2011   #19
Mike Connor

Several, including Windows 7 x64 Ultimate

One thing that quickly becomes clear to many, but often only after some pretty hard lessons, is that the whole "permissions thing", works perfectly well for most people as long as they don't play around with it, or as fseal pointed out, try to gain access to "everything" by manipulating various permissions. Doing this often renders your system either unstable or inoperable.

Setting up various rights and permissions can be quite complex, and it is easy to make mistakes. Some things are not intuitive at all, you have to know exactly how to do it. "Guessing" that something will work because you think it ought to, based on its name, or something like that, is a very bad idea.

There have been plenty of other systems with similar complexity. The various Novell systems for instance. You had to really spend a lot of time learning how things worked before trying to implement them on a live system or you would just end up either locking people out or crashing the system.

Obviously, people moving to Windows 7 from XP do have some problems with how things work. It takes a little while to settle down and gain confidence in the system. The "playing around with things" phase will slowly taper off, and you will then have fewer problems, or none at all.

It is important to realise that various default settings are there for very good reasons! If you change them, then you have to know what they do and why they do it, if you don't know this, then you ARE going to have problems. That's just how it is...........

Regards....Mike Connor
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