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Windows 7: Mom Needs Help with Teenager overriding Password

31 Mar 2011   #31

Microsoft Windows 10 Home Build 15036

I like the BIOS password idea. I work for a guy who has two computers out in full display and can't say no when his bro-in-law puts BitTorrent on his machines. He's been asked more than once not to mess with the puter, but they just don't take no for an answer.

I put a password on the BIOS and he hasn't tried to sign in since he spent 45 minutes trying to figure out how to get past the password screen.

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01 Apr 2011   #32
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1

I MAY be wrong here, but doesn't a BIOS password simply lock one out of the system BIOS settings? I had tried that due to a bozo of a step-son who likes to use Facebook, Myspace etc. The PC still started just fine.

This thread makes me feel real insecure if passwords can be bypassed so easily!

(((SuperMom))) I know how you feel.

Two suggestions I've seen seem the best, TrueCrypt or a USB drive lock. Make two USB's in case one is misplaced. Is the girl adding or deleting programs, changing your settings or what exactly does she do you consider out of place?
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01 Apr 2011   #33

XP / Win7 x64 Pro

BIOS password and boot password are different things. A BIOS password simply locks you out of the BIOS, a boot password won't boot the computer without it. Both have the possibility of being reset if you can get to the CMOS battery since they are stored in the BIOS ROM which is reset when power is removed for several minutes.

The most dependable way to completely prevent boot-up is full drive encryption with PGP, TrueCrypt, or something of the like.

Regardless, I have a feeling we're talking about web passwords and not boot or login passwords that are being "broken" here. We won't know until SuperMom responds at some point.

Let's also try to keep in mind this is a Windows 7 help forum, not Dr. Phil. So as much as we would like to all weigh in with our opinions on the matter, we owe the OP Windows 7 help, not a life evaluation.
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01 Apr 2011   #34

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 OEM --> RTM clean install

If the original poster could clarify for us what exactly sh's talking about: Win7 logon, internet passwords, what?
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01 Apr 2011   #35

Windows 8, Ubuntu 12.04 64bit, Pear Linux Triple Boot

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by brady View Post
Without giving too much info out on this topic, any password can be bypassed at startup.... Except disk encryption passwording.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by FliGi7 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by brady View Post
Without giving too much info out on this topic, any password can be bypassed at startup.... Except disk encryption passwording.
And without giving too much information on that, disk encryption can be bypassed as well. Regardless, this may have nothing to do with the actual logon password, as SuperMom talks about clearing temp files but the daughter still getting the password, which has nothing to do with the logon password.
This! I use "certain things" When working on PC's for people and they forget or don't tell me there password, but want it fixed :) I agree we need more info on what passwords are being compromised.

Bios passwords can be easily delt with as well, especially on a desktop.....


EDIT: Would this not work? Or is this only applying to Ultimate?
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01 Apr 2011   #36
Mike Connor

Several, including Windows 7 x64 Ultimate

This works well;

PREDATOR protects your PC with a USB flash drive | PREDATOR

Regards....Mike Connor
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01 Apr 2011   #37

Windows 7 Ultimate x64

She might be using a keylogger to know the passwords.
they usually have a certain key combination to open them, Alt-Ctrl-k maybe?
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04 Apr 2011   #38


I still think my option in #26 may work. The problem may be that the daughter is using either a USB stick or something like Hirens Boot Disk to boot that machine and would therefore not need any password. Removing the cable from the equation by replacing it with a wireless dongle would allow Mom to "take away" the internet connection.
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04 Apr 2011   #39

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit

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04 Apr 2011   #40

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64)

I might be the only one to dissent here, but I would ask this question: why do you want to forbid your daughter to use the computer in the first place? Is that really working out for you? And even if you throw away your desktop, so there won't be any computer in the house for her to use, how can that preclude her from going to a public computer in any library, internet cafe or her school?

If you want to keep her away from certain dangerous web sites - which would be the only reasonable goal here in my opinion as a parent (no offense) - you'd have to blacklist the IP addresses of the sites and then encrypt your system drive with a strong password. If she can go around this - which is certainly possible - then I'm afraid there is nothing you can do except to talk to her and explain the dangers you're trying to protect her from. You might of course use the "physical" methods to prevent her from using the machine - remove the cords, drives, etc., but just remember that yours is not the only PC in the neighborhood.

Otherwise, just to sort out the technical part of the issue, I do agree that you have to tell us which passwords your daughter is circumventing (and why do you think IE temp folders have anything to do with it).
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