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Windows 7: Mom Needs Help with Teenager overriding Password

04 Apr 2011   #41
SuperMom

Windows 7 64 Bit and Windows Vista
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Britton30 View Post
I MAY be wrong here, but doesn't a BIOS password simply lock one out of the system BIOS settings? I had tried that due to a bozo of a step-son who likes to use Facebook, Myspace etc. The PC still started just fine.

This thread makes me feel real insecure if passwords can be bypassed so easily!

(((SuperMom))) I know how you feel.

Two suggestions I've seen seem the best, TrueCrypt or a USB drive lock. Make two USB's in case one is misplaced. Is the girl adding or deleting programs, changing your settings or what exactly does she do you consider out of place?
Hi Britton!
Thank you for your suggestions! At this point I have just taken the network down. I mean if she can get pass the first screen no telling what else she can do. She is totally out of line as a parent and consumer it should be a law against this kind of stuff. I am looking into this whole BIOS thing sounds like it might work


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04 Apr 2011   #42
SuperMom

Windows 7 64 Bit and Windows Vista
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by GEWB View Post
Well, power cords are cheap or can be "borrowed" from other devices.

My first thought is to use a product like TrueCrypt:

Free open-source disk encryption software for Windows 7/Vista/XP, Mac OS X, and Linux
Main Features:

* Creates a virtual encrypted disk within a file and mounts it as a real disk.

* Encrypts an entire partition or storage device such as USB flash drive or hard drive.

* Encrypts a partition or drive where Windows is installed (pre-boot authentication).

* Encryption is automatic, real-time (on-the-fly) and transparent.

* Parallelization and pipelining allow data to be read and written as fast as if the drive was not encrypted.

* Encryption can be hardware-accelerated on modern processors.


See:

TrueCrypt - Free Open-Source On-The-Fly Disk Encryption Software for Windows 7/Vista/XP, Mac OS X and Linux

Maximum PC | How To: Encrypt Your Entire Hard Drive The Easy Way Using TrueCrypt

Regards,
GEWB
Thank you very much I will look into this Truecrypt. Lately the network is down and she cant get on. I am going to win this eventually
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04 Apr 2011   #43
SuperMom

Windows 7 64 Bit and Windows Vista
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by allend66 View Post
If the original poster could clarify for us what exactly sh's talking about: Win7 logon, internet passwords, what?
My daughter can by pass my password on the windows 7 screen when it first boost up. Trying to stop her by coming her asking the experts
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04 Apr 2011   #44
gregrocker

 

Have you tried creating a stronger password? A strong password contains numbers and letters and is lengthy. For example: two remembered childhood phone numbers interspersed by the abbreviations of the last three states you've visited. It should be changed regularly.

Have you looked at Parental Controls in the Control Panel?
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04 Apr 2011   #45
SuperMom

Windows 7 64 Bit and Windows Vista
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Have you tried creating a stronger password? A strong password contains numbers and letters and is lengthy. For example: two remembered childhood phone numbers interspersed by the abbreviations of the last three states you've visited. It should be changed regularly.

Have you looked at Parental Controls in the Control Panel?
Greggrocker-
Yes I have created an extremely difficult password as an administrator. This you tube video taught her how to override it. She has even gotten pass the Parental Controls. I try to change it every two weeks but I am so tired of doing it I just take the network down and she cant get on to that (at least not yet
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04 Apr 2011   #46
Alphamale

Windows 7 U/64
 
 

How is she by passing this? Are you there when she does this? Is she a hacker?

Ytube video
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04 Apr 2011   #47
gregrocker

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SuperMom View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Have you tried creating a stronger password? A strong password contains numbers and letters and is lengthy. For example: two remembered childhood phone numbers interspersed by the abbreviations of the last three states you've visited. It should be changed regularly.

Have you looked at Parental Controls in the Control Panel?
Greggrocker-
Yes I have created an extremely difficult password as an administrator. This you tube video taught her how to override it. She has even gotten pass the Parental Controls. I try to change it every two weeks but I am so tired of doing it I just take the network down and she cant get on to that (at least not yet
The only way I know that she can break your strong password is if she has put a keylogger on the machine. Do you have tight enough control over the installed programs to know that this hasn't been done?

Here are tips to detect a keylogger: http://www.adoko.com/keyloggers.html
http://www.tech-faq.com/how-to-remove-a-keylogger.html

Note that Spybot S&D is mentioned by all resources as a way to detect and block keyloggers: http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/

If you find the YouTube video which taught her to override your password then we can help you protect against whatever method is being used.

You can also consider clean reinstalling the OS slapping a strong password on the Admin account set up at install so she has no access except to a standard User account you set up later in Control Panel.
Take as much time as you want setting up the installation but the actual OS reinstall takes 20 minutes after which you'll be locked up tight so she can't get in to log or break your password. Clean Install Windows 7 - Windows 7 Forums
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05 Apr 2011   #48
unifex

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post

The only way I know that she can break your strong password is if she has put a keylogger on the machine. Do you have tight enough control over the installed programs to know that this hasn't been done?
Well, we have rules at the Forum that prohibit discussion of such things and I personally am no expert, but ... if someone is knowledgeable and determined and has physical access to the computer in question, nothing can be done to stop them. No key-logger is necessary. It's a game of determination - you may try new tricks and hope that they give up, deciding that it's not worth their effort, but apart from that ... Let's be honest, all the advice about passwords and parental controls implicitly assumes that the daughter is a beginner as far as computers are concerned. Is that really so? No offense to the OP, but it certainly looks like her daughter knows more about computers than she does. So it's a losing battle she's fighting here.

This is clearly a parenting issue and the real solution lies outside of the realm of passwords and encrypting. I think the OP has to understand clearly what is it that she wants to achieve. What she wrote so far - and we know nothing else - she's trying to prevent her daughter from using the Internet. I don't think that can be done by setting a password, since she can always go to a friend, neighbor, or a library, making all these efforts futile.
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05 Apr 2011   #49
wilywombat

win7
 
 

Hi Supermum...are you reading all the posts and not just the ones you want? Please read my post #38 it explains how your daughter can BYPASS any password you set except the BIOS, but that can be reset by pulling the motherboard battery.
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05 Apr 2011   #50
allend66

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 OEM --> RTM clean install
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by unifex View Post
... I think the OP has to understand clearly what is it that she wants to achieve. What she wrote so far - and we know nothing else - she's trying to prevent her daughter from using the Internet...
Er, nope.. supermom's post (post #43) says the daughter logs on to her admin account on Win7 boot.

Encrypt the system truecrypt thus requiring a password way before the win7 logon screen appears.
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