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Windows 7: Mom Needs Help with Teenager overriding Password

05 Apr 2011   #51
unifex

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by allend66 View Post
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... I think the OP has to understand clearly what is it that she wants to achieve. What she wrote so far - and we know nothing else - she's trying to prevent her daughter from using the Internet...
Er, nope.. supermom's post (post #43) says the daughter logs on to her admin account on Win7 boot.

Encrypt the system truecrypt thus requiring a password way before the win7 logon screen appears.
Well, later on she writes that she pulled the network and for now that's her solution.

Now, by saying "achieve" I don't mean any immediate goal such as prohibit the use of the internet or the home PC. The point is, why would the OP want that? To what purpose? Granted, this is a technical forum and she came with a technical question, but I still don't see how locking the home PC would prevent her daughter from using computers in general - will she also lock her daughter at home and not let her go to school?

I repeat - there is no 100% bulletproof security tool to completely lock up a PC. The only thing that can be achieved, is to set up security measures which would be above the daughters skill level. But if she's really determined, she could learn and eventually bypass that as well. Or if her goal is not some particular data on that very PC (and it looks like it's not, judging by the network-pulling solution), she can just go some place else.

That's why I think this is a parenting issue more than a technical issue. Prohibitive measures just drive children and parents further apart, which in my opinion is counterproductive. But I guess I will stop here.


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05 Apr 2011   #52
seekermeister

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

This is an area that I have no experience with, but depending on the computer, the side panel may be lockable, and if one installs an intrusion switch, which disables the computer until reset, and a BIOS password is set, I suppose that it is possible for all of that to be defeated, but it would take a lot of determination to do.
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05 Apr 2011   #53
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

Off Topic:
I have to ask, unifex, what is OP?
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05 Apr 2011   #54
wilywombat

win7
 
 

Hi Britton, It stands for Original Poster...ie supermum.
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05 Apr 2011   #55
pdxireland

W7 Pro 64bit
 
 

Lock up the room the computer is in - use the door lock and add a serious pad lock or something?
fmg
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05 Apr 2011   #56
allend66

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 OEM --> RTM clean install
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pdxireland View Post
Lock up the room the computer is in - use the door lock and add a serious pad lock or something?
fmg
Or cut her hands off. (joke! DON'T do this!)
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05 Apr 2011   #57
geeve420

Windows 8, Ubuntu 12.04 64bit, Pear Linux Triple Boot
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by wilywombat View Post
Hi Supermum...are you reading all the posts and not just the ones you want? Please read my post #38 it explains how your daughter can BYPASS any password you set except the BIOS, but that can be reset by pulling the motherboard battery.
This again! If she is at the PC there are many tools that are undetectible and require no keylogger. with out to much detail, I use these tools sometimes when repairing computers and they forget to tell me what the password is or I can't get a hold of the owner. Again as well, BIOS passwords on a desktop are easy to get around as well.

A serious talk/grounding (Beating! just kidding DO NOT beat her) would do more than trying to stop her with software. It sounds to me like she has a better idea of what she is doing than given credit for here
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05 Apr 2011   #58
Shootist

Windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

Sorry I have to say this.
Someone in that house hold need to get straighten out. Whether that is the daughter or first the mom and dad has yet to be determined.

This is just totally ridiculous. And you expect your daughter to have any real moral judgement for the rest of her life when you can't even get her to obey some simple computer restrictions.
Has she stolen the car yet? That will be next as soon as you tell her she can't use it.

GET REAL. With yourself and your daughter before it is to late.
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05 Apr 2011   #59
gregrocker

 

Mr. 420: For those of us who don't have the "special abilities" you have:

Please explain how a computer which is clean reinstalled, given a strong password during setup, then only allowed access via a Standard User account can be hacked to bypass the password without reinstalling again.

I am assuming a keylogger or other bypass has been installed which would not be there if a clean reinstall was done. But apparently there are other methods and it would be good to know what they are.
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05 Apr 2011   #60
FliGi7

XP / Win7 x64 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Mr. 420: For those of us who don't have the special abilities you have:

Please explain how a computer which is clean reinstalled, given a strong password during setup, then only allowed access via a Standard User account can be hacked to bypass the password.
NT Boot Disc. She has physical access.

At any rate, this doesn't sound like a problem where the fix lies in Seven Forums technical help. We've listed all the options possible to deter or prevent someone from logging in to a local machine. The rest of the answer lies in SuperMom.
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