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Windows 7: Mom Needs Help with Teenager overriding Password

05 Apr 2011   #61
Irishman

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

There are other programs that allow you to access/reset/delete all passwords on a PC that I sometimes use (as geeve420 also said) for repairing PC's whose owners have forgotten their passwords.
If her daughter is using such a program then there's not much that can be done except for maybe putting the PC in a room under lock and key.


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05 Apr 2011   #62
geeve420

Windows 8, Ubuntu 12.04 64bit, Pear Linux Triple Boot
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Mr. 420: For those of us who don't have the "special abilities" you have:

Please explain how a computer which is clean reinstalled, given a strong password during setup, then only allowed access via a Standard User account can be hacked to bypass the password without reinstalling again.

I am assuming a keylogger or other bypass has been installed which would not be there if a clean reinstall was done. But apparently there are other methods and it would be good to know what they are.

Not "special abilities", just google Check your inbox

Geeve
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05 Apr 2011   #63
gregrocker

 

Gotcha. Thank you.

OK, there is a possibility your daughter is using a bootable device to run your computer from it's CD/DVD drive or a USB stick.

To preclude this possibility, restart your computer, look for prompt to enter BIOS setup (F2 on Dell), in BIOS setup choose the Security tab, add a strong Administrator password for Power-On.

On the same tab, look for Device Security settings to disable CD/DVD drive, USB and all other devices shown ability to boot the computer without the Admin password.

Save the settings and exit.

If these settings are not easily found, let us know the exact computer model and we will look them up in the Manual to customize these steps.
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05 Apr 2011   #64
geeve420

Windows 8, Ubuntu 12.04 64bit, Pear Linux Triple Boot
 
 

No problem gregrocker! I wasn't sure how to explain that without getting in trouble

I wonder how long it will be before the daughter shows up on here for help on how to get around what her Mother is doing LOL

Geeve
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05 Apr 2011   #65
gregrocker

 

How do you think she would get around a BIOS password with boot options disabled?

I don't think she could even reflash the BIOS.
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05 Apr 2011   #66
geeve420

Windows 8, Ubuntu 12.04 64bit, Pear Linux Triple Boot
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
How do you think she would get around a BIOS password with boot options disabled?

I don't think she could even reflash the BIOS.
Sent it to your inbox. I have had to do this as well a couple of times As Irishman said, if she has physical access to the PC about the only thing to do is lock it up

Geeve
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05 Apr 2011   #67
gregrocker

 

Wow. I guess you could lock the box itself.

This brings us back to Brink's original suggestion to encrypt with Bitlocker which uses a flash stick key.

I have always clean reinstalled to get past password problems and never messed with hacking them. But I was using a boot disk to rescue the files so I should have realized its potential for mayhem.

Thanks, I learned a lot here. I hope SuperMom has as well and can pull together a strategy.
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05 Apr 2011   #68
geeve420

Windows 8, Ubuntu 12.04 64bit, Pear Linux Triple Boot
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Wow. I guess you could lock the box itself.

This brings us back to Brink's original suggestion to encrypt with Bitlocker which uses a flash stick key.

I have always clean reinstalled to get past password problems and never messed with hacking them. But I was using a boot disk to rescue the files so I should have realized its potential for mayhem.

Thanks, I learned a lot here.
Yeah it's scary stuff!! As a repair guy, they are great tools and a dream come true, however as we can see here, they are also a complete nightmare if used for bad

Geeve
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05 Apr 2011   #69
FliGi7

XP / Win7 x64 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
This brings us back to Brink's original suggestion to encrypt with Bitlocker which uses a flash stick key.
I think it would be far less easy to guess a well-picked password than to steal the usb key at some point to boot the computer, based on the accesses it appears that the daughter has.

BIOS password + bitlocker/truecrypt/pgp (whatever you care to use) full disk encryption with password

If that doesn't solve this problem, then you're gonna need to contact your local military enlistment office.
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13 Apr 2011   #70
SuperMom

Windows 7 64 Bit and Windows Vista
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by wilywombat View Post
Hi Supermum...are you reading all the posts and not just the ones you want? Please read my post #38 it explains how your daughter can BYPASS any password you set except the BIOS, but that can be reset by pulling the motherboard battery.
Hi wilywombat! I am reading them ALL. MY final soultion take down the desktop and haul my labtop everywhere Ifor yoo go. Thanks for your input
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