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Windows 7: Just got back from updating Vista Ultimate to SP2...

05 Jul 2009   #11
KazeNoKoe23

Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MUff1N View Post
I DO have all the same programs installed as on 7 & on my system there's a HUGE diff in speed, OS size, OS resource usage & memory usage!
W7 is blazing fast & Vista is Snail Slow!
Strange that there would be a huge difference in OS size. I've found Vista and 7 to be about even in that category.


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05 Jul 2009   #12
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

There's about a gb more disk space usage in my case.

Haven't double checked shadow copies to see if that would make a diff - still, it won't be huge in my case.
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05 Jul 2009   #13
Muad Dib

XP Pro & Vista Home Premium (x86); Windows Ultimate 7600 x64 Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
My results are not dissimilar from Petrosa's - and I am using 2gb, so I don't think having large amounts of Ram is responsible for those results.

Thought about adding some Ram - never got round to it. Works very well as it is. It is also handy in cases like - see my first sentence.

I think Petrosa explained it - he has a good machine - so Vista is in it's element. And he was comparing like with like install and setups of the 2 o/s.

I have a similar experience ( despite only having 2gb of Ram ).

Most people are not doing that it seems.
Well whatever makes your boat float as they say. Personally, given the low cost of 4GB of DDR2, I would upgrade to 4GB even for XP much less Vista or W7 x64.

You know when I worked on cars a 289 had about the same performance as a 454 big block when they were both equipped with the same 2 barrel carburetor. Just my 2 cents.

Boot time, assuming it is not snail slow, is not a concern to me. Boot time is often more restricted by disk I/O performance than processor speed or OS overhead. Its pagefile usage and hard disk faults that kills real world efficiency.

I am running 8GB and after a few hours work W7 will easily have 3-4 GB of memory in standby. If I'm doing audio/video work it will be maxed out. Since I can't afford SSDs, yet, giving the superfetch plenty of room seems to be a good option for achieving quick response when switching between apps.
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06 Jul 2009   #14
petrossa

vista x64/ win 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MUff1N View Post
I DO have all the same programs installed as on 7 & on my system there's a HUGE diff in speed, OS size, OS resource usage & memory usage!
W7 is blazing fast & Vista is Snail Slow!
Seen your system specs, i find that very very very hard to believe.

Or you have an old vista with a vast registry bloat.

Or you work for MS
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06 Jul 2009   #15
petrossa

vista x64/ win 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Muad Dib View Post
Well whatever makes your boat float as they say. Personally, given the low cost of 4GB of DDR2, I would upgrade to 4GB even for XP much less Vista or W7 x64.

You know when I worked on cars a 289 had about the same performance as a 454 big block when they were both equipped with the same 2 barrel carburetor. Just my 2 cents.

Boot time, assuming it is not snail slow, is not a concern to me. Boot time is often more restricted by disk I/O performance than processor speed or OS overhead. Its pagefile usage and hard disk faults that kills real world efficiency.

I am running 8GB and after a few hours work W7 will easily have 3-4 GB of memory in standby. If I'm doing audio/video work it will be maxed out. Since I can't afford SSDs, yet, giving the superfetch plenty of room seems to be a good option for achieving quick response when switching between apps.
Also doing 8gb, but i have set pagefile off. But then again i tend to close/reopen app's a lot old habit from the times that running several apps at once gave a load of BSOD's.

My rig runs in principe 24/24/7 because i only go to sleep mode. So memory is always same state.

At best i get 70% memory usage.

Boot times on both systems (i gave them each a dedicated WDC500) is equally slow.

Returning from sleep is equally fast, < 1 sec.
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06 Jul 2009   #16
LFB

Windows7 Enterprise SP1 x64 (Technet)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by MUff1N View Post
Now I really appreciate W7U that much more because it puts Vista to shame!!!
Vista is SO SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW it's not funny!!! Takes forever (seems that way after W7U!) to bootup or shutdown or install a program or anything!!!

I couldn't wait to get it updated & make my backup image of it so I could come back to 7!
Now I "Officially" HATE Vista Ultimate!!!
Vista sucks my friend, that's a fact...
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06 Jul 2009   #17
Jon55

Windows 7 64-bit (7127) & Mac OS X 10.5.7
 
 

Vista SP2 x64 is pretty damn solid. Not sure why you guys are having such problems.
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06 Jul 2009   #18
digitalrurouni

Windows 7 x64 Pro
 
 

I dont know about Vista SP2 personally but it was a dog without SPs last time I used it on a top of the line Dell XPS gaming laptop.
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06 Jul 2009   #19
Muad Dib

XP Pro & Vista Home Premium (x86); Windows Ultimate 7600 x64 Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Jon55 View Post
Vista SP2 x64 is pretty damn solid. Not sure why you guys are having such problems.
Second that.
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07 Jul 2009   #20
petrossa

vista x64/ win 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by digitalrurouni View Post
I dont know about Vista SP2 personally but it was a dog without SPs last time I used it on a top of the line Dell XPS gaming laptop.
when it first came out it was pretty awful, only after SP1 came out i switched from XP x64.

SP2 made it as rocksolid as a general use OS can be.
7 is very decidely SP3, no matter the 'moisterizing cream with nanotechnology' like stories about a totally rebuild microkernel there may be.

But trying to pull a camper with a Smart is generally not a good idea, so you need good hardware to run either.
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