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Windows 7: RTM vs Retail

06 Jul 2009   #31
PhreePhly

Windows 7 x64 (RTM via MSDN)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by fakeasdf View Post
Just to let you know PhreePhly you can sign up for a free TechNet account and view the hashes yourself
Really? Didn't know that. So I don't have download rights, but I can view the iso information?

I had MSDN for many years, but I'm not using it enough to justify the cost. I'm no longer writing much code anymore. I've been thinking about a TechNet (paid) account, but haven't run the numbers, yet.

PhreePhly


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06 Jul 2009   #32
Sven

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by fakeasdf View Post
Just to let you know PhreePhly you can sign up for a free TechNet account and view the hashes yourself
I am a danish Viking, and English is not my first language, so that must be why I can't find the page to sign up for free. I can only find the one you have to pay for.

Do you have a link to it? TIA
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06 Jul 2009   #33
poin2

Windows7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lordbob75 View Post
I heard it as Release to Market. That would explain part of the confusion, and would clear it up.

So lets look at it like this:
RTM (as release to MARKET) would be the same as the retail (and OEM).
RTM (as release to MANUFACTURER) would be the OEM version, slighly different from OEM.

~Lordbob
RTM is Released to Manufacturing -- sometimes Released to Marketing (not Market). It's the phase at which the software is "signed off" and they start manufacturing discs and boxes and the marketing department takes over the process of putting it out there in the public's hands.

There is no Release to "Market." The term for when it actually enters the market is "General Availability."

RTM and Retail are the same software. It's simply packaged and on shelves and everything when it's "retail."

The OEM version of the software remains the same as RTM as well. They'll simply adjust activation and/or add things to it as the big OEM's themselves get their paws on it.

Anyway, RTM is the final "gold master" of the software. Things might happen to it later as it gets updates, gets boxed, the OEM's tweak it, it gets adjusted for "upgrade" versions, etc., but all of those get based off of the RTM "master" version of the software.
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06 Jul 2009   #34
fakeasdf

Win 7 Pro x64 x 3, Win 7 Pro x86, Ubuntu 9.04
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Sven View Post
I am a danish Viking, and English is not my first language, so that must be why I can't find the page to sign up for free. I can only find the one you have to pay for.

Do you have a link to it? TIA
Any Windows Live or Hotmail account can access it. Just go to Technet.com... Login... Download Tab... Click Windows on the Left Featured Products... Click one of the subscriptions on the right (You don't have to have a subscription to view them, just to download and get keys).
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06 Jul 2009   #35
Lordbob75

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by poin2 View Post
RTM is Released to Manufacturing -- sometimes Released to Marketing (not Market). It's the phase at which the software is "signed off" and they start manufacturing discs and boxes and the marketing department takes over the process of putting it out there in the public's hands.

There is no Release to "Market." The term for when it actually enters the market is "General Availability."

RTM and Retail are the same software. It's simply packaged and on shelves and everything when it's "retail."

The OEM version of the software remains the same as RTM as well. They'll simply adjust activation and/or add things to it as the big OEM's themselves get their paws on it.

Anyway, RTM is the final "gold master" of the software. Things might happen to it later as it gets updates, gets boxed, the OEM's tweak it, it gets adjusted for "upgrade" versions, etc., but all of those get based off of the RTM "master" version of the software.
Alright, now I get it!

~Lordbob
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06 Jul 2009   #36
fakeasdf

Win 7 Pro x64 x 3, Win 7 Pro x86, Ubuntu 9.04
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lordbob75 View Post
Alright, now I get it!

~Lordbob

Actually it stands for Release that Mother... Come on Microsoft, RTM, Hurry!!!
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08 Jul 2009   #37
Nibiru2008

Windows 7 Professional X64 Build 7600.16385 (win7_rtm.090713-1255)
 
 

Quote:
To make it clear, if you buy OEM and install and activate on your current machine and then six months later you want to build a new one, you can't move the OS over to the new build, it will not activate.
I had an OEM XP Pro for years, when I built two new systems, several years apart I had no issues getting an activation via phone with M$. Once I had to do it because I had changed video cards and put in a Firewire PCI card.

So perhaps there will not be an issue with the Windows 7 OEM either.
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09 Jul 2009   #38
Sven

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Has anybody heard something about Microsoft is going to sell a Study License as they did with Windows XP and MS Office? (don't know abot Vista). If so, which version of Windows 7 will it be?
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09 Jul 2009   #39
Sammy

vista x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Sven View Post
Has anybody heard something about Microsoft is going to sell a Study License as they did with Windows XP and MS Office? (don't know abot Vista). If so, which version of Windows 7 will it be?
Oh you mean Academic License, they have just 2 for Vista, Maybe the same for Windows 7.

http://www.microsoft.com/education/l...entselect.aspx
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09 Jul 2009   #40
Sven

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Well, yes and no ?!? Windows XP Study licence (so it says on my package) was sold to anybody thats study, or go to school, and even to parents whom had 1 or more kids in school. It costs about $96 in 2002 when I got mine for a Windows XP Pro Upgrade CD with Study licence, and I have used it ever since.
The link you gave me shows that you have to be in a higher education to get the cheeper licence.
I'm not sure, but I think the Office Study Licence was a bit harder to get. Buying XP Study from a computer shop, and you got the CD and CD-key with you home right away, but Office study licence just gave you a card to fill out and snailmail to Microsoft Denmark, and when they had aproved the filled card, they would send you the CD and CD-key.
Was that only in Denmark is was this way?
Since XP is not sold anymore, I can't find that licence online at Microsoft anymore.
I'll just have to wait and see then.
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