What issues can arrise with Windows 7E?

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  1. Posts : 152
    Windows Vista, Server 2008, Leopard, Suse
       #21

    I guess choosing a browser is a personal thing, I prefer IE8 since it provides me with the best way to work with tabs, I have never understood the big appeal for firefox tbh. In any case IE8 on Windows7 /vista is not only a rock solid browser, it is also very secure. I have my doubts about firefox in the same context.

    Safari, I even don't use on Leopard, it's just not my preferred browser, I guess that's a nice way of putting it :)
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  2. Posts : 803
    Windows 7 Professional x64
       #22

    sjaak327 said:
    I guess choosing a browser is a personal thing, I prefer IE8 since it provides me with the best way to work with tabs, I have never understood the big appeal for firefox tbh. In any case IE8 on Windows7 /vista is not only a rock solid browser, it is also very secure. I have my doubts about firefox in the same context.

    Safari, I even don't use on Leopard, it's just not my preferred browser, I guess that's a nice way of putting it :)
    Firefox it is safer, faster and has a lot of addons for everyones needs.
    Try it and you're gonna change your mind
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  3. Posts : 152
    Windows Vista, Server 2008, Leopard, Suse
       #23

    Haha, I doubt it is safer then IE8 which is sandboxed into the OS on both Vista and Win7, I agree with all those add-ons, but then again, I use it as a browser, so I never use add-ons.
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  4. Posts : 45
    Windows 7
       #24

    Muad Dib said:
    Oh, thank you. I cannot face the day without having heard an expert opinion on how much IEx sucks. Now that that is out of the way I can finish my coffee, have a bowel movement and carry on with life.

    No, wait, something is missing..... I still need to be told that Macs are the only REAL computers for smart people and if the everyone in the world switched to Linux we would have peace in the Middle East....

    Oh well, I must somehow carry on anyway.....
    You made my day. I was about to post something equally snarky. You saved me the trouble. Thank you good sir!
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  5. Posts : 45
    Windows 7
       #25

    misterck said:
    ah i didnt understand what a CYA was sorry,so i guess anything like that will possibly just give a script error type warning like orbital's shown from wmp in the earlier post?
    (C)over (Y)our (A)ss
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  6. Posts : 45
    Windows 7
       #26

    To answer the original question - it is impossible to actually remove IE8.

    Windows 7E will still have IE8 in it, because it CANNOT BE REMOVED FROM THE SYSTEM. Virtually 100% of Windows now uses the IE DLL's to render content, since practically everything is XML now.

    When you "uninstall" IE8 you are in essence just deleting iexplore.exe and the add-ons. The problem is that even the default set of add-ons (as set up on a clean install) gets hooked into some of the content-rendering done by the back-end DLL's. Therefore... that stuff potentially breaks (as shown in this thread).

    Does this help?
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    XP Pro & Vista Home Premium (x86); Windows Ultimate 7600 x64 Retail
       #27

    misterck said:
    ah i didnt understand what a CYA was sorry,so i guess anything like that will possibly just give a script error type warning like orbital's shown from wmp in the earlier post?
    That one surprises the heck out of me.

    Orbital, had you installed some other browser after "turning IE8 off"?

    If not was the "Internet Options" applet still available in Control Panel?

    If so was there anything like "Internet Options" applet still available in Control Panel?

    Do you have the Sun Java run-time installed (both the 32 bit and the 64 bit)?

    Do you have the Visual C++ run-time installed?

    Makes me wonder how much uninstalling IE from a W7 US install differs from a W7 E install that never had IE to begin with.....hmmmmm....

    I need to squeeze another partition out of my cramped HDDs so I can install a W7 test copy....
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  8. Posts : 16,131
    7 X64
       #28

    I have posted this many times, but have not got any kind of definitive answer.

    Can anybody confirm the following :

    1. All dvd's will contain all the 7 install files.

    2. Only the dvd's sold in the EU will also contain the install configs for E versions.

    3. If that is the case, it follows :

    A Regular key can be used with all install media.

    An E key can only be used with install media which also contains the E install configs.

    You can see what I am getting at from the N version of Vista install media :

    Vista N version install media :

    What issues can arrise with Windows 7E?-version-e2009-07-20_165524.jpg

    Vista Regular install media:

    What issues can arrise with Windows 7E?-version-non-e2009-07-20_165438.jpg
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  9. Posts : 45
    Windows 7
       #29

    SIW2 said:
    I have posted this many times, but have not got any kind of definitive answer.

    Can anybody confirm the following :

    1. All dvd's will contain all the 7 install files.

    2. Only the dvd's sold in the EU will also contain the install configs for E versions.
    Don't think you'll get that confirmation until we see some retail discs.
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  10. Posts : 16,131
    7 X64
       #30

    MS have not thought this through - they got away with it with the Vista N versions , because almost nobody had them.

    Could be a real nuisance.
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