Windows 7 Forums
Welcome to Windows 7 Forums. Our forum is dedicated to helping you find support and solutions for any problems regarding your Windows 7 PC be it Dell, HP, Acer, Asus or a custom build. We also provide an extensive Windows 7 tutorial section that covers a wide range of tips and tricks.


Windows 7: Win Explorer jumps back to parent

04 Jul 2011   #11
Jack C

Windows 7 Professsional 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by James Colbert View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Jack C View Post
I was hoping I could get rid of libraries and other pointers and make Win 7 just let me manage my own damn files! But it's a lesson in progress.
Many thanks for your help.
A few links tro help you remove Libraries from the Nav Pane:

Library Pane - Turn On or Off

Libraries Folder - Add or Remove from Navigation Pane


I'm not sure what you mean by "other pointers", but be careful about removing system or user folders, including the junctions for Documents and Settings on some machines. This includes changing permissions. There are many posts in this forum from those who have hosed their systems doing so.


Quote:
By the way, how do you quote just parts of a post you are replying to? Can't find forum explanation for this.
You can use the 'Wrap' icon on the message icon bar (pasting the text in between) or you can type in your own starting and ending Quotes, i.e. [?QUOTE], [?/QUOTE]. Remove the question marks, as they are just there to prevent the QUOTES from being converted to HTML.
Thanks for links on turning off libraries. I've really been trying not to mess up the standard situation, but I find it very worrisome to be chasing all over Windows Explorer. I am presuming that if I work in desktop\computer name (c:)\users\username, that the same things I do there happen in the apparent "pointer" which is just labelled "username" in the main hierarchy under desktop. I find that confusing and haven't tested it yet. I was told earlier on this site that Win 7 had to keep some pointers to the old XP "documents and settings" folders to be compatible with programs written for that OS, but that they are really apparently dummies and can't be worked on directly. Whew!
Also..... I'm still really confused about how the threads are organized and how to reply, copy partial quotes from the post you are replying to, etc. Maybe I'm a dummy. I've never had problems with nntp groups or other forums or emails. And I can't find any guide to these things in the forum itself. Any pointers would be appreciated. I do appreciate everyone's interest and help.
Jack


My System SpecsSystem Spec
.
04 Jul 2011   #12
dsperber

Windows 7 Pro x64 (1), Win7 Pro X64 (2)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Jack C View Post
Also..... I'm still really confused about how the threads are organized and how to reply, copy partial quotes from the post you are replying to, etc. Maybe I'm a dummy. I've never had problems with nntp groups or other forums or emails. And I can't find any guide to these things in the forum itself. Any pointers would be appreciated. I do appreciate everyone's interest and help.
Jack
It's pretty straightforward. Just push the QUOTE button, and everything in the post you're replying to is automatically wrapped with a [.quote] at the front and a [./quote] at the end (those ".'" are not really there). The poster's userid is also inserted in that leading delimiter, so that it shows as the author of the post to whom you are replying.

Now, you simply edit the quoted text any way you want. Select a whole piece and then DELETE it if you don't want it to appear in the quoted text, but rather just want to reply to a specific thought or sentence, and want to eliminate other irrelevant text.

Or, you can say break up a paragraph with multiple thoughts, and reply to individual sentences individually. Just hit the RETURN key a few times on the keyboard after the end of where you want a quoted area to stop, and add your own [./quote] right there, to finish off a quoted section. Now you just type your own reply right there, following that [/quote] you manually inserted.

When you're done replying to that thought, you then go down to the "dangling" section you previously spaced down a bit with multiple RETURN keys. And you then manually insert your own [.quote] at the start of that next section, to begin a newly quoted text area. And then again, you position the cursor at the end of the next "thought" section you want to reply to, and then once again RETURN a few times, and manually add another [./quote], and insert your reply to this quoted text section.

Etc., etc.

It's really just like editing text. All that's needed is to manually ensure that each quoted text section starts with [.quote] and ends with [./quote], which you'll just have to manually place there yourself, and ensure occur in pairs. Normally, you clean things up (if you pressed RETURN a few times, just for good form) so that say that the start of each quoted text section is "double-spaced", to make it stand out clearly for readability.

And you simply delete all irrelevant text that you have no interest in appearing as quoted text in your reply. If you practice a bit, it'll quickly become clear. And of course you can always go back and "EDIT" your reply (pushing the EDIT button at the bottom of all of your own posts, and then push the SAVE button when your edit is complete), if you mess up and want to clean things up a bit.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
05 Jul 2011   #13
Jack C

Windows 7 Professsional 64 bit
 
 

[QUOTE=dsperber;1474831]
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Jack C View Post
They're completely independent of each other. Note that the same right-click context menu popups you would get from Windows Explorer on items... you'll get the same right-click menu from Free Commander.
Sounds nice. And I have it and will try it when it seems appropriate. Right now, I'm trying to sort out the "stock" version of Win7. Thanks. Jack
My System SpecsSystem Spec
.

05 Jul 2011   #14
Jack C

Windows 7 Professsional 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by dsperber View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Jack C View Post
Also..... I'm still really confused about how the threads are organized and how to reply, copy partial quotes from the post you are replying to, etc. Maybe I'm a dummy. I've never had problems with nntp groups or other forums or emails. And I can't find any guide to these things in the forum itself. Any pointers would be appreciated. I do appreciate everyone's interest and help.

Jack
It's pretty straightforward.
Now that you explain it! In simple terms: [.QUOTE] (without the dot) starts the quote and [./QUOTE] ends it. I'll try it.

Quote:
... break up a paragraph with multiple thoughts, and reply to individual sentences individually.
.

OK, I am assuming that my own inserts to not require any delimiters. We'll see how this comes out.

Quote:
When you're done replying to that thought, you then go down to the "dangling" section you previously spaced down a bit with multiple RETURN keys.
I think I'm getting it.

Now if I can figure out how the thread replies are organized. Hmmm.

I really appreciate the great help.

Jack
My System SpecsSystem Spec
05 Jul 2011   #15
dsperber

Windows 7 Pro x64 (1), Win7 Pro X64 (2)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Jack C View Post
It's pretty straightforward.

Now that you explain it! In simple terms: [.QUOTE] (without the dot) starts the quote and [./QUOTE] ends it. I'll try it.
Exactly.

You've got it. You just push the QUOTE button to quote everything, and then edit that big block as you want, deleting or replying-to as you want.

And of course, you can also edit your way for multi-level quoted text, to show things like "he said, and I said, and he said, and here's my reply to that whole thought".

You simply have to have multiple [.quote] at the front, and matching [./quote] at the end, so that they're paired.

The HTML editor understands that and presents it as multi-level quoted text, indenting and frame-surrounding each as makes sense for readability.


Quote:
OK, I am assuming that my own inserts to not require any delimiters. We'll see how this comes out.
Exactly. Your text has no quoted text start/end delimiters.


Quote:
I think I'm getting it.

Now if I can figure out how the thread replies are organized.
You've got it.

The only thing special done when you push the QUOTE button is to add the poster's userid to that first [.quote] start delimiter, which is an optional suffix to cause that value to show in the resulting post to identify the author of the quoted text. After that, it is not automatically inserted... although again, you could actually manually type it in yourself (just like appeared automatically in the first delimiter).

So if, for example, you were trying to produce a combined reply to multiple posters in one single reply of yours, you might put that "author value" in the delimiter for the quoted text piece from each author, so that each author to whom you were replying would recognize their text in your multiple-single reply to multiple authors in a single reply.

You're completely in control.

And it looks like you've got it.

Glad to help out.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
05 Jul 2011   #16
Jack C

Windows 7 Professsional 64 bit
 
 

[QUOTE=dsperber;1476556]
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Jack C View Post
It's pretty straightforward.

Now that you explain it! In simple terms: [.QUOTE] (without the dot) starts the quote and [./QUOTE] ends it. I'll try it.
Exactly.

You've got it. You just push the QUOTE button to quote everything, and then edit that big block as you want, deleting or replying-to as you want.

And of course, you can also edit your way for multi-level quoted text, to show things like "he said, and I said, and he said, and here's my reply to that whole thought".

You simply have to have multiple [.quote] at the front, and matching [./quote] at the end, so that they're paired.

The HTML editor understands that and presents it as multi-level quoted text, indenting and frame-surrounding each as makes sense for readability.


Quote:
OK, I am assuming that my own inserts to not require any delimiters. We'll see how this comes out.
Exactly. Your text has no quoted text start/end delimiters.

Quote:
And it looks like you've got it.
Many thanks again. I found this a bit counterintuitive. I guess is more like native HTML editing. Most programs handle quoting in an opposite way, it seems, that is, highlighting and copying to clipboard what you want to quote. Here you quote the whole passage and then highlight and delete what you don't want quoted. Oh well, it's very helpful to get a feel for this.
Jack
My System SpecsSystem Spec
05 Jul 2011   #17
dsperber

Windows 7 Pro x64 (1), Win7 Pro X64 (2)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Jack C View Post
Many thanks again.
Actually, I think you lost one level of quoting in the post above. It looks like an "echo" of my post, not a "quote" of my post.

Looks like you forgot to add one more [./quote] ending delimiter, before you put your own text reply.

Takes just a little practice, when you're editing all of the large quoted text.


Quote:
I found this a bit counterintuitive. I guess is more like native HTML editing. Most programs handle quoting in an opposite way, it seems, that is, highlighting and copying to clipboard what you want to quote. Here you quote the whole passage and then highlight and delete what you don't want quoted. Oh well, it's very helpful to get a feel for this.
Handling quoted text does seem to be a function of the BBS forum software product used.

But if you're not comfortable with this inline editing method resulting from the QUOTE button, you can approach it a different way... using the POST REPLY button all the way at the bottom of the page. This opens up a blank new composition area, and you can just enter whatever you want without a formal "quote" initialization. From that point, you could always COPY/PASTE from the original post that you're really wanting to reply to (open simultaneously in another tab, presumably, so that you can refer to it) and then manually insert all of the necessary [.quote] and [./quote] delimiters yourself.

And don't forget, you can always use the EDIT button to correct something you post, after you've posted it. This is the "whoops" key. Then SAVE to update your original post with the edited version.

Anyway, the secret is simply the single or multi-level paired [.quote] and [./quote] delimiters, and the rest is up to you.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
05 Jul 2011   #18
Jack C

Windows 7 Professsional 64 bit
 
 

[QUOTE=dsperber;1476573]
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Jack C View Post
Many thanks again.
Actually, I think you lost one level of quoting in the post above. It looks like an "echo" of my post, not a "quote" of my post.

Quote:
you can approach it a different way... using the POST REPLY button all the way at the bottom of the page. This opens up a blank new composition area, and you can just enter whatever you want without a formal "quote" initialization. From that point, you could always COPY/PASTE from the original post that you're really wanting to reply to (open simultaneously in another tab, presumably, so that you can refer to it) and then manually insert all of the necessary [.quote] and [./quote] delimiters yourself.
Interesting, but will I know which post I'm replying to?
I think I'm getting the picture. And thanks again for your patience.
Jack
My System SpecsSystem Spec
05 Jul 2011   #19
dsperber

Windows 7 Pro x64 (1), Win7 Pro X64 (2)
 
 

[QUOTE=Jack C;1477527]
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by dsperber View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Jack C View Post
Many thanks again.
Actually, I think you lost one level of quoting in the post above. It looks like an "echo" of my post, not a "quote" of my post.

Quote:
you can approach it a different way... using the POST REPLY button all the way at the bottom of the page. This opens up a blank new composition area, and you can just enter whatever you want without a formal "quote" initialization. From that point, you could always COPY/PASTE from the original post that you're really wanting to reply to (open simultaneously in another tab, presumably, so that you can refer to it) and then manually insert all of the necessary [.quote] and [./quote] delimiters yourself.
Interesting, but will I know which post I'm replying to?
I think I'm getting the picture. And thanks again for your patience.
Jack
You missed it again. Look at your post.

You neglected to add that one crucial ending [./quote] before you typed your own reply text. That would have finished off the outer pair, and shown everything above as "quoted" (including appropriate multi-level indentations) with your reply as pure unquoted new text.

You can verify that what you've composed looks right before you actually post it, by pushing the "preview post" button. Or if you do "submit reply" and then re-read what got posted and realize you made a mistake because it doesn't look right, you can "edit" and then "save" to correct.

Anyway, your post (to which I'm replying) is not right. Much of my text is not quoted, but appears as if it were your text.

You need to be sure you have PAIRS of [.quote] and [./quote], surrounding any area of text from the original author that you want to appear as quoted text. You can have multiple levels in, but you must have multiple levels out, in order for the multi-level quoting to appear as you want.

Your text should appear as "open text", and my text should never appear as "open text" but should always appear with the quoted text frame. Only if your text is multi-level (e.g. you're quoting me who quoted you) would your text appear inside of a quote frame... but in that case it would be further indented as part of the overall quoted text, and obvious that it was not your current reply text.


Hope this isn't getting too deep into the weeds.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Reply

 Win Explorer jumps back to parent




Thread Tools




Similar help and support threads
Thread Forum
Bootable USB cannot be recognized, jumps back to existing OS
Our hard drive failed about a week or two ago. It is partially corrupt to the point where it eventually gives a stop error. I personally performed a live CD recovery using Ubuntu and I extracted most of the hard drive's contents. I was unable to extract the user documents, however, if somebody...
Installation & Setup
Game jumps in desktop and back to game like every 1min
So i was trying to play dins curse and when i´m in game it says like every 1 sec not responding and stops the game and continue it after 0,5sec and agai and again its realy annoying pls can any1 help me
Gaming
Explorer - How to open parent folder in a new window?
In Windows XP, I used to Ctrl+click the Parent Folder button (folder icon with a green arrow pointing up). There's no such button in Windows 7 and I can't find a way to do it using the keyboard. Is it possible? Thanks, Oren
General Discussion
when typing a name of a file in explorer, cursor jumps to search
Hi, lately I've been having a weird and annoying problem, I'm browsing a folder in windows explorer and when I start typing a name of a file or a folder (that exists in the folder), the cursor is jumping to the search window in the top side, the text I type is written there and the search is...
General Discussion
Games: screen jumps back to desktop
I got a weird problem with running new games on Win7. Sometime, while playing Mirror's Edge, the screen jumps back to the desktop. The game is still running. I can hear the sound and the engaging enemy. Then after a few seconds the screen switches back to the game and I can play on. Sometimes...
Gaming
Windows Explorer Up to parent folder button
Ok I just found this online and It is great hope someone else will like it. It adds the go up one parent folder as opposed to the back button wich is just the last thing you where on. How to add a go up button Classic Shell | Download Classic Shell software for free at SourceForge.net
Customization


Our Sites

Site Links

About Us

Find Us

Windows 7 Forums is an independent web site and has not been authorized, sponsored, or otherwise approved by Microsoft Corporation. "Windows 7" and related materials are trademarks of Microsoft Corp.

© Designer Media Ltd

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 20:34.
Twitter Facebook Google+ Seven Forums iOS App Seven Forums Android App