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Windows 7: Can't boot Windows 7 after printer uninstallation

26 Jul 2011   #71
Magron

 

Absolutely. And in any case, 'Forum Hearsay' in a place like this is usually pretty dependable. A proven track record of these two particular AV programs playing well together, as observed by people who have an idea what they're looking at, pretty much answers my original question.
As hoped, a bit of discussion has enlightened me.
Thanks.


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26 Jul 2011   #72
essenbe

Windows 10 Pro/ Windows 10 Pro Insider
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Magron View Post
Absolutely. And in any case, 'Forum Hearsay' in a place like this is usually pretty dependable. A proven track record of these two particular AV programs playing well together, as observed by people who have an idea what they're looking at, pretty much answers my original question.
As hoped, a bit of discussion has enlightened me.
Thanks.
That's why we are all here. I learn something every day, from the best 'experts' on the internet. If you're like me, hang around, you'll learn alot of things. When I first found the site, I started reading the tutorials. After the first couple I said 'I had no idea you could do that with windows 7', and I thought I knew it pretty well.
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26 Jul 2011   #73
gregrocker

 

Thanks Steve. It will still be educational to know where the A/V leaves off and a Malware scanner takes up, or if there is even a distinction.

Many add SuperAntiSpyware for better spyware protection. Will three shields conflict at all?
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26 Jul 2011   #74
essenbe

Windows 10 Pro/ Windows 10 Pro Insider
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Thanks Steve. It will still be educational to know where the A/V leaves off and a Malware scanner takes up, or if there is even a distinction.

Many add SuperAntiSpyware for better spyware protection. Will three shields conflict at all?
I really don't know as I've never tried it. But I do know that MSE gets along with almost anything else. A few years ago I used Norton 360, and it said it wouldn't work with any other AV. It worked very well with MSE that I had installed also. I haven't found anything, in my experience, that MSE didn't get along with.
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26 Jul 2011   #75
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

All mentioned can be included under the umbrella term Anti Virus. A/V has come to mean any security software than can detect and remove viruses, Trojans, root kits, key loggers, web crawlers, spiders, bots, etc. Most of us, including me, call everything a virus.

All use different detection engines and definition files and heuristic rules, so all are not equal. some can't remove what it detects and some will detect far less than another.

I have found MSE does do well with other real-time A/Vs, that is, one which is "on" and actively scanning all the time. Most others don't, though, and will either not be dependable or crash your system. Generally though, it is not a good practice to run more than one simultaneously.

For my own systems I use Norton Internet Security but run MalwareBytes and Super AntiSpyware on demand scanners regularly. On the VM I have with XP mode on, I have only MSE installed.

Back in thw Windows 98 days, I found Norton to be really bad, slow, and a resource hog. I switched to McAfee for 98 and it wotked well. Since XP though, I've been with Norton and many have reported issues with Win 7 and McAfee.

NOTE: It is prohibited to discuss then on SF, but anti adware products are a different class of animal. They are normally very poor and make browser displays nearly unuseable
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26 Jul 2011   #76
Jacee
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Magron View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
If you're prone to infection in addition to a good lightweight AV like free Microsoft Security Essentials or Avast 6, I'd also run the paid version of Malwarebytes to get the real-time shield. At the least, run a full scan monthly.
Seriously? The conventional wisdom for years has been to avoid multiple AV programs running at the same time. The unique way they handle security can be a problem when they bump into each other.
Not trying to be rude or anything but I like to get to the bottom of it when 'wisdom' changes.
MSE does have a realtime shield BTW.
"MBAM is antimalware software that is designed to fill in the gaps left by antivirus software"
Please read this .... Is AntiMalwareBytes an Anti Virus program? - Malwarebytes Forum
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26 Jul 2011   #77
Magron

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Jacee View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Magron View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
If you're prone to infection in addition to a good lightweight AV like free Microsoft Security Essentials or Avast 6, I'd also run the paid version of Malwarebytes to get the real-time shield. At the least, run a full scan monthly.
Seriously? The conventional wisdom for years has been to avoid multiple AV programs running at the same time. The unique way they handle security can be a problem when they bump into each other.
Not trying to be rude or anything but I like to get to the bottom of it when 'wisdom' changes.
MSE does have a realtime shield BTW.
"MBAM is antimalware software that is designed to fill in the gaps left by antivirus software"
Please read this .... Is AntiMalwareBytes an Anti Virus program? - Malwarebytes Forum
I think we lost the terminology battle when 'hackers' became bad guys.
These days *or rather..since then... I just go with the flow.....
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26 Jul 2011   #78
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

Good info Jacee. this explains why MBAM finds baddies when other programs don't.
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26 Jul 2011   #79
essenbe

Windows 10 Pro/ Windows 10 Pro Insider
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Britton30 View Post
Good info Jacee. this explains why MBAM finds baddies when other programs don't.
Yes it is. Probably as good an explanation as you are going to get.
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27 Jul 2011   #80
Corrine

Windows 7 & Windows Vista Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Magron View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
If you're prone to infection in addition to a good lightweight AV like free Microsoft Security Essentials or Avast 6, I'd also run the paid version of Malwarebytes to get the real-time shield. At the least, run a full scan monthly.
Seriously? The conventional wisdom for years has been to avoid multiple AV programs running at the same time. The unique way they handle security can be a problem when they bump into each other.
Not trying to be rude or anything but I like to get to the bottom of it when 'wisdom' changes.
MSE does have a realtime shield BTW.
Hi, Magron.

While you are correct in saying that multiple A/V programs, programs with real-time protection and multiple software firewall programs can cause conflicts, although Microsoft Security Essentials is an anti-virus program, the engine used for real-time protection is the Windows Defender engine. That engine provides anti-spyware protection, not anti-malware protection such as that included in Malwarebytes Anti-Malware. In addition, MBAM is not an anti-virus program. Thus, there is no conflict between the two.

As noted, the real-time protection provided by MBAM is only in the paid/licensed version. It is, however, a one-time license fee.
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