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Windows 7: numeric only passwords fail

01 Aug 2011   #1
ideprize

Windows Professional 32 bit
 
 
numeric only passwords fail

Spent a rather long day 7/30/11 determining that on my client's system, Windows 7 Professional 32 bit Service Pack 1, that numeric only passwords of length > 4 digits failed unless the login was done in safe mode (without networking). The instant I added characters (as the first digits - did not test for internal placment) the password was accepted at the normal login prompt. The original profile was in trouble. The directory structure was there but the user name was not in the user group. When I created the new profile with a numeric only password the problem surfaced. It should be noted that the old profile had a numeric only password of 4 digits that DID work but the client wanted to update the password to 7 digits (numeric only) on the new profile - no cigar. Thanks for any illumination.

Respectfully,
Gordon Haas


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01 Aug 2011   #2
Ztruker

Windows 10 Pro X64
 
 

I just created a new account, set the password to 1234. Logged in and it accepted the password with no problem.

Win 7 Pro X64
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01 Aug 2011   #3
ideprize

Windows Professional 32 bit
 
 

The length of the password that failed was 7 digits in length. The original numeric password was also 4 digits in length and it did work. See if you can repeat the problem with a numeric length of 7. Thanks for a quick response.
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01 Aug 2011   #4
logicearth

Windows 10 Pro (x64)
 
 

No problem here, 4 to 7 to 10.
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01 Aug 2011   #5
karlsnooks

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ideprize View Post
The length of the password that failed was 7 digits in length. The original numeric password was also 4 digits in length and it did work. See if you can repeat the problem with a numeric length of 7. Thanks for a quick response.
This is/can be controlled by a group policy setting.

I suggest you run gpedit.msc
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01 Aug 2011   #6
karlsnooks

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
 
 

Of course,
if the it dept. has set an AD policy or some true "group" policy for the group to which the user belongs, then that will override.

I recommend talking to the loca it/system admin dept.
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02 Aug 2011   #7
ideprize

Windows Professional 32 bit
 
 

That would be me - the it department. The reason why I posted this on this forum was in hopes of finding someone who also encountered this problem. The environment is not one of a single system - the system that had the error is a member of a workgroup with a 2008 R2 Server. I checked all account policies to insure that they are not requiring complex passwords - they are not. All I know is if I remove the leading two characters from the front of the password the login fails except in pure safe mode (no networking). At first I thought it was a virus but I scanned the system with House Call, Malwarebytes, and ESET - they all say it is clean. I will look into the group policy issue but I thought that was subordinate to the local security policy settings. This is a workgroup not a domain.
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02 Aug 2011   #8
karlsnooks

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
 
 

WIN + F1 key combo | type POLICY SETTINGS | ENTER

You should thoroughly familiarize yourself with the 3rd item on the list: Group Policy Management for IT Pros.

WIN is the key with the wavy microsoft flag on top
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02 Aug 2011   #9
richnrockville

Windows 7 Pro x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ideprize View Post
The length of the password that failed was 7 digits in length. The original numeric password was also 4 digits in length and it did work. See if you can repeat the problem with a numeric length of 7. Thanks for a quick response.
FWIW: If the original password was in the Active Directory of your server as 4 numeric characters and it worked due to no restrictions on passwords, that would answer the question of why the 4 numberics worked. But it only worked until you decided to change it and then the new AD rules probably came into effect and then you can't change it back.
Can it be assumed the the server 2008 was upgraded from an older 2003 or so?

That could be an answer to your problem and the only way that I see to solve it would be to have the adminstrators change the group policy on the server.

Just my take on this..
(And it was taken from experience with almost the same thing)
Rich
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02 Aug 2011   #10
karlsnooks

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
 
 

one of the policy settings regards password length.
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