But, aside from looks and new features, is it better?

dook said:

See i don't see this lightyears better than vista crap. My vista x64 is solid as hell and it is faster at the minute since windows 7. Have you all tried vista with sp2 on? It really is snappy, it's well supported now, it's quite secure.

It definately pisses all over XP. Seriously, if you hate it you should take another look.

Me neither, it is simply FUD, lies and bull****. Windows 7 is for a very large part Vista, there is really no doubt or discussion needed. So it isn't lightyears ahead of Vista, just about 2.5 years actually....

The question if Windows 7 is better then XP, well, shame on the OP for even asking the question, it is indeed lightyears ahead of XP, but so was Vista. It is a shame, that some people apparenlty had such a bad experience with it to continue uttering the FUD about Vista.

Mostly people that do that, have either ran Vista for a short while on crappy hardware, or haven't ran it at all.

My Vista X64 is rock solid on 4.5 year old hardware, my media Centre PC is a Dell Optiplex GX260, (from december 2002 !) and runs Vista X86 fine (the only upgrade I did was a cheap memory upgrade and a 30 euro videocard).

The subject of this thread should really be a comparison between Vista and Windows 7, as the reasons for upgrading from XP to Windows 7 are clear, even if it was just for security.

The OS is so much faster on my 5 year old machine than Vista. I was pleasantly surprised and have already placed 2 pre-orders for the release in October, one for my Dell XPS 600 and the wife's Alienware Laptop.

I can't wait to see how it runs on a more update-to-date PC.

Greg

metoo said:

You obviously have a truck load of RAM if you run Vista x64, I'm just wondering if it is XP x64 you are comparing with or the x86 version which won't be utilizing all the RAM?

I personally couldn't think of a bigger waste of time than to look at vista again, I mean why bother?

lol I obviously have a truck load of RAM. I have 8 gigs of RAM. When i first started on Vista (x86) I had 1 GIG of ram. It ran perfectly fine - i ditched XP for it. At the time as well it was 2000x more secure than XP.

I'm absolutley sick to **** of these people saying "You must have all this ram..." It's £35 for 4 gigs of ram. How do you possibly have an excuse to not have a good amount of ram in your computer? You can't afford £35?!!? Anybody who works can afford £35. Most bums can afford £35.

dook said:

See i don't see this lightyears better than vista crap. My vista x64 is solid as hell and it is faster at the minute since windows 7. Have you all tried vista with sp2 on? It really is snappy, it's well supported now, it's quite secure.

It definately pisses all over XP. Seriously, if you hate it you should take another look.

+1.

Same for me. I have 2gb cheap Ram 667mhz.

Vista x64 runs superbly. I see no difference in speed or performance between Vista and 7 on my machine.

dook said:

See i don't see this lightyears better than vista crap. My vista x64 is solid as hell and it is faster at the minute since windows 7. Have you all tried vista with sp2 on? It really is snappy, it's well supported now, it's quite secure.

It definately pisses all over XP. Seriously, if you hate it you should take another look.

Same here, my Vista X64 is also rock solid and fast, I couldn't be happier and I haven't even upgraded to SP2 yet, I'm still on SP1, not to mention that I would never go back to 32 bit, I sense in each and every way that 64 bit simply leads to more reliability under heavy use.

I've tried Windows 7 and didn't much see the "huge" performance increase that is often claimed, also more recent tests done on several sites confirm my initial thoughts.

It doesn't mean that I won't switch to Windows 7, which I will certainly do once it has SP1, all I'm saying is that the claim that Windows 7 is light-years ahead of Vista is extremely exaggerated.

dook said:

I'm absolutley sick to **** of these people saying "You must have all this ram..."

Exactly, that annoys me too.. .all that rediculous whining about issues that one shouldn't have a reason to whine about...sigh

dook said:

It's £35 for 4 gigs of ram.

And that's even expensive, I paid 30% less for 4GB Kingston ram and that was 3 months ago.