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Windows 7: What don't you like about Windows 7?

01 Dec 2009   #1011
logicearth

Windows 10 Pro (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by paliometoxo View Post
plus you dont have to defrag unless you do have to defrag macbook pro after installing windows.
Actually, fragmentation does occur on a Mac. Starting with Windows Vista, defragmentation was moved to a background task that was scheduled to run every so often, like Mac OS does. However, people were confused by that. They could not comprehend that Windows Vista was defragging the HDD behind the scenes.

But yes, Mac OS (even Linux/Unix) has disk fragmentation just like Windows.


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01 Dec 2009   #1012
paliometoxo

Microsoft windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

really because at the wwdc whatever its called when they released new macbooks and iphone 3gs apple mention an advantage to windows is that you have to defrag with windows still but macs you dont have to.
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01 Dec 2009   #1013
Dark Nova Gamer

Windows 7 Ultimate, OS X 10.7, Ubuntu 11.04
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by paliometoxo View Post
really because at the wwdc whatever its called when they released new macbooks and iphone 3gs apple mention an advantage to windows is that you have to defrag with windows still but macs you dont have to.
logicearth is right. Fragmentation occurs even on a Mac. Now, you really think Apple, a company, will never lie to you? Every company lies to the consumer, one way or another.
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01 Dec 2009   #1014
logicearth

Windows 10 Pro (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by paliometoxo View Post
really because at the wwdc whatever its called when they released new macbooks and iphone 3gs apple mention an advantage to windows is that you have to defrag with windows still but macs you dont have to.
Defragmentation takes place in the background on a Mac. This defragmentation only works on files under 25 MB. While on Windows, Microsoft attempted to do the same thing but obviously "some" users didn't like that. Fragmentation is unavoidable on any file system.

Now if you are the type of person to be obsessive over defragmentation, there is a whole eco-system dedicated to it, just for Windows!
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01 Dec 2009   #1015
paliometoxo

Microsoft windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DarkNovaGamer View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by paliometoxo View Post
really because at the wwdc whatever its called when they released new macbooks and iphone 3gs apple mention an advantage to windows is that you have to defrag with windows still but macs you dont have to.
logicearth is right. Fragmentation occurs even on a Mac. Now, you really think Apple, a company, will never lie to you? Every company lies to the consumer, one way or another.

of course they will lie and say whatever they can to sell more, but since its unixed based i thought it was true.. oh well
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01 Dec 2009   #1016
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x3, Ubuntu
 
 

Unfortunately Apple has a policy of using negative advertising rather than positive.

In my opinion the people responsible are not to worried about the facts, just as long as it fits the plan.
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01 Dec 2009   #1017
fseal

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

Very true. And yes Linux fragments (ext3 and most other as well) in /exactly/ the same way as NTFS. That's what "Discontiguous I-Nodes" are. e2fsck even has a "fragcheck" option and yet 99% of linux users would tell you straight to your face that Linux file systems do not fragment, and I think 99% of those actually believe it!

The truth is, "normal" desktop computer usage, Mac, Windows and Linux NEVER needs to be defragmented. There just isn't enough file deletion going on to make any real difference in speed or any real significant fragmentation.

Serious fragmentation (on ANY system) ocurs when 1) the drive is nearly full and 2) when there is a tremendous amount of file create/deletion going on. 99% of all desktop users probably don't have /either/ of those situations to deal with let alone both.

Unless your system drive is 95%+ full and you are installing and uninstalling dozens of programs a month or using your drive as some kind of scratch space for hindreds of huge files (Ok, games might actually be such a thing) I wouldn't worry about it. I almost never defrag my systems, there is simply no need.
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02 Dec 2009   #1018
FuturDreamz

Windows 8 Pro (32-bit)
 
 

I just thought of something else. lack of compartmentalization.
In mac OS all of the application executables and need files (such as the app image) are located in it's own *.app folder in the applications folder (which is also the main app launcher), User settings is in the user's library/preferences folder, systemwide settings is in the /library/preferences, plugins are in their own library folder.
to install most apps you just drag into the application's folder (or alternatively the applications folder in the user's folder)
and pretty much everything has it's own place.
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02 Dec 2009   #1019
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x3, Ubuntu
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by IceFire View Post
I just thought of something else. lack of compartmentalization.
In mac OS all of the application executables and need files (such as the app image) are located in it's own *.app folder in the applications folder (which is also the main app launcher), User settings is in the user's library/preferences folder, systemwide settings is in the /library/preferences, plugins are in their own library folder.
to install most apps you just drag into the application's folder (or alternatively the applications folder in the user's folder)
and pretty much everything has it's own place.
Apple and Microsoft have chosen two different models, both have their merits and problems, In actuality the model still used by apple was abandoned by Microsoft Back with Windows 9.x, due to the wasteful duplication of code caused by having every app completely separate. As long as the install and uninstallers are written correctly there should be no issues with the Microsoft Model
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02 Dec 2009   #1020
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by landozelig View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kari View Post
I don't like these nested folders and subfolders, like subfolder of a subfolder of another subfolder e.g. Users > Kari > Pictures > 2009 > November etc.

In Windows 3 it was so nice when you could only have one level of folders, no need to put a folder inside another folder.



Kari
Yeah, and what's up with all these colors? Nobody really ever needs more than 16 colors anyway, right?
Hi there
What about pro photography or really high quality colour printing.

Calibrating a decent monitor to get realistic colours on a high quality printer is definitely NOT a trivial job - and I'm sure if you were doing a wedding shoot for clients etc you'd DEFINITELY want more than 16 bit colour on a monitor.

Just visist a Pro photogs studio if you can and you'll probably DIE when you see the very high quality monitors used in these processes.

Cheers
jimbo
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