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Windows 7: What don't you like about Windows 7?

04 Dec 2009   #1051
Kasdarack

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I don't like that MS and various hardware companies have conspired to force hardware upgrades. Creative, ATI, NVIDIA, etc. using the new OS as an excuse to no longer support hardware that is only a few years old is pretty weak. Capitalism at its worst, I suppose.

I also hate that to use Virtual PC XP mode you have to have a new processor that supports hardware assisted virtualization. That's bullcrap. We have been using virtual systems for years without such. That's just another way to force upgrading upon us.

I love Windows 7 so far, and I'm happy that MS didn't allow the idea of backwards compatability to hinder the OS. But there's no excuse for MS and the major hardware companies to deliberately sabotage the functionality of older hardware in the name of wanting the consumer to spend more money (or in the name of not wanting to spend a little effort to release good updated drivers.)


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04 Dec 2009   #1052
Tews

64-bit Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

Its a conspiracy...
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04 Dec 2009   #1053
gregrocker

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kasdarack View Post
I don't like that MS and various hardware companies have conspired to force hardware upgrades. Creative, ATI, NVIDIA, etc. using the new OS as an excuse to no longer support hardware that is only a few years old is pretty weak. Capitalism at its worst, I suppose.


I love Windows 7 so far, and I'm happy that MS didn't allow the idea of backwards compatability to hinder the OS. But there's no excuse for MS and the major hardware companies to deliberately sabotage the functionality of older hardware in the name of wanting the consumer to spend more money (or in the name of not wanting to spend a little effort to release good updated drivers.)
Quite the contrary, MS funded the partnership (Windows Hardware Quality Labs) to develop drivers for Win7 with the stipulation that any compatible hardware needed to have drivers built between MS and the manufacturers. They even enforced the deadline of Win7 release date.

This solved the problem of manufacturers dragging their feet in Vista to get users to buy newer hardware: MS paid the bill - they set the schedule.

That's also why Win7 has most all of the drivers in the installer (and puts more in when you plug ethernet and select "Keep me connected to the internet" during install) and newer ones quicker via Windows Updates. They have them first, since they paid the bill.
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06 Dec 2009   #1054
cbleman

XP Media Edition / Vista /Win 7 Home Premium
 
 

(The story has a point. Please read)

A business owner looking to buy a safe; walked into retail store and went to the isle where safes were displayed. When he arrived at the isle, he found two safe manufacturers in a heated argument about whose top of the line safe is better.
When the retailers found out he was in the market for a safe, they asked him to settle the dispute.

The first manufacturer told the business owner, “My safe is made of 12” of layered titanium”. “It has sixteen hardened titanium locking bars (Four on each side), that slide eight inches into recessed double clad titanium conduits”. “The alpha/numeric combination pad on the front cannot be smashed, drilled, or tampered with”. “It is also explosion proof”! “The combination pad also is programmable to accept any combination from four to thirty two characters, and can be set up to recognize and record up to forty different combinations for different employees”. “That way, you will know who accessed the safe and when”. It is designed to keep anyone else from breaking in.

The second manufacturer stepped up with a derogatory smirk on his face, and told the business owner; “My safe is also made of titanium”. “It has exactly as much storage space on the inside as my competitor”. “It also has everything he just mentioned plus more”!
“My safe has 12 more inches of titanium around the first, with an inset door, and a locked explosion proof panel inside the first door”. “My safe also incorporates the latest biometric security systems”. “Anyone entering the first door must supply both a thumb print and a retinal scan as well as a combination”. “The explosion proof panel opens with a thumb print, and has special sensors that allow only one person at a time to enter the second door”. “That way, no one can force an employee to open the safe and loot it”. “It has an internal power supply that lasts fifty years, and can be recharged should you keep the safe longer than that”. “It also has a self locking feature that relocks everything as soon as the person inside leaves”. “That way, no one can ‘accidentally’ leave the safe open to be robbed”! “Best of all”. “My safe costs no more than his”!

The business owner looked at all the prices and brochures for all the displays. After careful consideration, he turned to the first manufacturer, and told him he needed the safe the manufacturer described, delivered to his business as soon as possible.

Incredulous, the manufacturer with the biometric safe asked how he came to his decision. He said, “My safe has twice the features for the same price”!
The business owner said, “Your safe would take up twice the space in my building, for the same amount of storage space”. “My employees will be going in and out of the safe frequently during the course of a day”. “The extra features features your safe provides are not worth the added frustration, and loss of productivity it would bring”. “Besides, the safe will be locked in a building with a monitored security system designed to keep intruders out”. “The level of security provided by the safe I’m buying should be sufficient”. “Any more (again), would be counterproductive”.

....And the point is,

One of the things I hate about Windows 7? UAC! From what I’ve read, and heard, I’m not alone.Yes…. It can be turned off; but not easily by a frustrated novice. A lot of people will live with it, because it’s to complicated to turn it off, or they just don’t know how or even if they can.

What I would like to see in future revisions is an easy way to turn it off, as a menu option in the GUI. That way, the less informed will be able to decide weather they need/want the “added security”.

I know, firewalls do not do everything implied in the story. It is, after all, just a story. Please flame gently. I also know it was a long story for a short point. I hope it was an entertaining read.

PS: If a hardware manufacturer withholds drivers for a product, it may be time to look at other brands.

Smee
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06 Dec 2009   #1055
fseal

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

[Gently gently.... can't do it! ]

I always wonder what someone who posts something like that would do on Linux... UAC is far far FAR less cumbersome than runing an OS as a true user like on Linux and Mac. The number of times I have to elevate my prives by hand even to so somthing stupid like acess a serial port is amazing.

How often does UAC come up on a machine after you've set it up or bought one already setup. Once a month? Is it REALLY SO MUCH trouble to have the OS ask you if an admin level change to the computer was really initiated by you and wanted by you? And all you have to do is click a button, not type in a password, its nothing.

If some installer or other program of ghod forbid a virus does want to make admin level changes I sure to like having the oppourtunity to know about it.

If I have a gripe about UAC, it's that it doesn't go into detail about what the changes are...
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06 Dec 2009   #1056
saze

W7
 
 

To be honest, UAC shows up A LOT more than once a month! That said however, it is super easy to turn off in 7. You don't have to take the command line route and can even use less annoying settings if you wish.
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06 Dec 2009   #1057
Dzomlija

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by saze View Post
To be honest, UAC shows up A LOT more than once a month! That said however, it is super easy to turn off in 7. You don't have to take the command line route and can even use less annoying settings if you wish.

Seriously?

When I first switched to Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Retail from the RC (a bit more than a month ago), the first thing I did was set UAC to it's maximum level so that it acts more like it did in Vista. Excluding all the UAC prompts over the 2 days it took me to install all necessary applications and configure the system the way I want it, I haven't seen a single UAC prompt at all. Not one. Nada.

5 weeks and counting - still no UAC prompts AT MAXIMUM LEVEL!
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06 Dec 2009   #1058
gregrocker

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dzomlija View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by saze View Post
To be honest, UAC shows up A LOT more than once a month! That said however, it is super easy to turn off in 7. You don't have to take the command line route and can even use less annoying settings if you wish.

Seriously?

When I first switched to Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Retail from the RC (a bit more than a month ago), the first thing I did was set UAC to it's maximum level so that it acts more like it did in Vista. Excluding all the UAC prompts over the 2 days it took me to install all necessary applications and configure the system the way I want it, I haven't seen a single UAC prompt at all. Not one. Nada.

5 weeks and counting - still no UAC prompts AT MAXIMUM LEVEL!
You must be running as built-in Admin?

I am, too, and never get a single prompt for anything. No second guessing at all.
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06 Dec 2009   #1059
Dzomlija

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dzomlija View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by saze View Post
To be honest, UAC shows up A LOT more than once a month! That said however, it is super easy to turn off in 7. You don't have to take the command line route and can even use less annoying settings if you wish.

Seriously?

When I first switched to Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Retail from the RC (a bit more than a month ago), the first thing I did was set UAC to it's maximum level so that it acts more like it did in Vista. Excluding all the UAC prompts over the 2 days it took me to install all necessary applications and configure the system the way I want it, I haven't seen a single UAC prompt at all. Not one. Nada.

5 weeks and counting - still no UAC prompts AT MAXIMUM LEVEL!
You must be running as built-in Admin?

I am, too, and never get a single prompt for anything. No second guessing at all.
Nope. Standard-type Admin with reduced privledges, as was created when 7 was first installed.
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06 Dec 2009   #1060
mhasanbulli

Windows 7 (32-Bits)
 
 

Hmmm... I love Windows 7 but I have to be honest here say that I hate the fact that Windows Media Player 12 does not update the album info even if you were able to find correct album info. Other than that, everything is perfect
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