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Windows 7: What don't you like about Windows 7?

16 Jan 2010   #1221
hdmi

8.1 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
better product (...) probable increase in efficiency
After you've copied a large chunk of disk content in Vista or in 7, you often have to click View | Refresh because the Windows Explorer still can't refresh it automatically. In XP, there never was such a problem. Nor in DOS 5.0, either. As far as breadcrumbs goes, I can tell you this: people who want an increase in efficiency are often doing more than one thing at the same time. They have to be able to focus on what it is they're doing. With breadcrumbs, the location where you have to click your mouse is changing all the time. The up arrow never budges even a quarter of a pixel. The green color of the arrow even helps me find it with one eye closed. Like in the fairy tale, breadcrumbs get eaten by the birds (read: 'bugs') all the time so that 'Junior Member' still easily got lost in the forest.

Why should I choose Windows 7 when it can't use multiple soundcards simultaneously? In terms of audio quality, 9.1 surround is the future. My laptop has native HDMI, which comes with its own digital audio. It also has Realtek HD, which comes with its own digital audio. So Windows XP is perfectly capable of 9.1 surround and even better. Vista is not, 7 is not.


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16 Jan 2010   #1222
severedsolo

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

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new gripe, Aero Peek's preview feature is spotty, sometimes it updates instantly, sometimes you have to restore the window to get it back, noticeably ALWAYS on utorrent, and on and off on Windows Live Messenger
That would be to the fact that certain applications are programmed not to update there window when minimized, this saves on resources. It is up to the application developer if they want to constantly update even when minimized.
ah thats fair enough then... you would have thought that Windows Live Messenger would get it right though surely?
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16 Jan 2010   #1223
antt

Windows 7 build 7100 x86
 
 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
better product (...) probable increase in efficiency
After you've copied a large chunk of disk content in Vista or in 7, you often have to click View | Refresh because the Windows Explorer still can't refresh it automatically. In XP, there never was such a problem. Nor in DOS 5.0, either. As far as breadcrumbs goes, I can tell you this: people who want an increase in efficiency are often doing more than one thing at the same time. They have to be able to focus on what it is they're doing. With breadcrumbs, the location where you have to click your mouse is changing all the time. The up arrow never budges even a quarter of a pixel. The green color of the arrow even helps me find it with one eye closed. Like in the fairy tale, breadcrumbs get eaten by the birds (read: 'bugs') all the time so that 'Junior Member' still easily got lost in the forest.

Why should I choose Windows 7 when it can't use multiple soundcards simultaneously? In terms of audio quality, 9.1 surround is the future. My laptop has native HDMI, which comes with its own digital audio. It also has Realtek HD, which comes with its own digital audio. So Windows XP is perfectly capable of 9.1 surround and even better. Vista is not, 7 is not.
Apparently using multiple outputs was never actually supported by XP, it was a programmatic workaround. Vista was also able to output to do it as well, through macro workarounds. However, these workarounds do not work in Windows 7.
It would be nice id a workaround was found, for both multiple outputs and outputs on both digital & analogue.
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18 Jan 2010   #1224
cbleman

XP Media Edition / Vista /Win 7 Home Premium
 
 

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By the way, the shell program mentioned in previous posts does have the up arrow in a new menu bar. It works very well. I guess, i'll have to visit, and thank the programmer. For me it's a keeper until MS puts the arrow back.
I'm afraid you'll have to always rely on third-party tools in the future. There's no way that the "Up arrow" is coming back to Windows. Breadcrumbs are the future. Just like the ribbon UI of MS Office. If you take a little effort to get used to these features, it will not only improve your productivity, but also save you the hours wasted in finding third-party tools.
If it dosn't.. Oh well. The arrow is one of the things that was replaced by something else. Learning a new way to do the same thing is just a price I'll have to pay. There is a very large user base that would like to see it back again however. I'm not holding my breath for it to come back; but with such a large amount of people that would like to see it back, I'm hoping it has a chance to make it back in. hdmi: Great point about the static location. A deep directory is also less intuitive in bread crumbs, than clicking the arrow a few times.

BTW: There is no denying that breadcrumbs is a very usefull tool, and I can also see the need to eliminate redundancy. (Still want to see it back though.)
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18 Jan 2010   #1225
cbleman

XP Media Edition / Vista /Win 7 Home Premium
 
 

After windows live is downloaded and installed, I am unable to uninstall the specific apps I don't want. (Windows live messenger for instance.)

I would STILL like to see a custom install option in Win 7. If size is an issue, this would help. I know things can be disabled, but there they sit... taking up space (and perhaps ram), and not being used. That way, perhaps, I could keep my (Relatively) tiny little menus, and get rid of the larger space/memory hungry graphic intensive things I don't use. I don't want to see things go away that I don't use; I'm sure there are plenty of people who use things I don't. I do want my non redundant menus/options back however. The size/number of the install disks I don't feel would be a real issue to users, if the setup were done properly to minimize "Disk Swapping". Items/Options you find you didn't need before, but do now, could be added later using the install disks.

New computers are being sold now with Win7 installed. I wonder what the percentage of total users, "Power Users" and "IT Professionals" are.... I guess there would be no way to find out; and "Power User" is an awfully broad term.

I installed 7 for a family member last weekend. I had little trouble explaining why the drivers were incompatible, and the old install disks for her peripherals would not work. Since I was doing the install this was not an issue. Explaining the lack of an email client was impossible. The general consensus was, if MS can include the browser, get real and include the email client too.
Once I got the OS up, configured, and explained some of the major differences, she was fairly happy. Her overall experience was summed up when she said you need to be an engineer to get it up and running properly (Cursing omitted.). Like the Teacher, she surfs the Net, retrieves her email, and uses her set programs. I think she will continue to be happy with the new OS. She also wanted the Azul background back. hehehe, I'll fix that later. (Input from the majority.)
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18 Jan 2010   #1226
logicearth

Windows 10 Pro (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by cbleman View Post
I would STILL like to see a custom install option in Win 7. If size is an issue, this would help. I know things can be disabled, but there they sit... taking up space (and perhaps ram), and not being used.

Without the page file or hibernation file, and with temporary files cleaned out, of course restore points deleted...the install is well under 8 to 6 GB. Is that really something to be concerned about? Storage increased in size, not decreases. And there is nothing taking up your precious RAM unless it is running.


There is nothing to gain from having a means to strip components out of the OS. Just more issues to deal with.
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19 Jan 2010   #1227
musiclover7

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

Given the choice between up arrow, and bread crumbs, I would choose bread crumbs without hesitation. I am one of those who wishes the up arrow had not been taken out, but I am also one of those who is over-all, immensely pleased with the OS... Truth be told, bread crumbs is the better of the two options, as you can quickly move up 3..4..5 tiers in the file system with a single click, but for me, there was something intuitive about the up arrow, that I sometimes miss. At this pnt though, I am over it.. I do not want to install a 3rd party app to get the functionality back.

I used to always replace explorer with an app called Directory Opus, which far exceeds explorer in functionality, but I have not done that yet in 7, and probably won't feel the need. I can get what I need to get done pretty easily with the current explorer, and don't feel installing 3rd party functionality is worth the over-head required to run/maintain it..

I am boggled by the notion that 9.1 surround sound is not supported in Windows 7. Having done absolutely no research on the subject what-so-ever, the idea bothers me, and boggles me. I wonder if it is a case of lacking drivers, or lacking code in the OS.. Still, very interesting..
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19 Jan 2010   #1228
logicearth

Windows 10 Pro (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by musiclover7 View Post
I am boggled by the notion that 9.1 surround sound is not supported in Windows 7. Having done absolutely no research on the subject what-so-ever, the idea bothers me, and boggles me. I wonder if it is a case of lacking drivers, or lacking code in the OS.. Still, very interesting..
It would depend on if you have the equipment and the driver support to make use of a 9.1 setup. Is this functionality backed into the OS? No... But, how many people in the world have a 9.1 surround systems? So my question...would it actually be worth the cost of maintaining code for a fraction of people?
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19 Jan 2010   #1229
Frostmourne

Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by logicearth View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by musiclover7 View Post
I am boggled by the notion that 9.1 surround sound is not supported in Windows 7. Having done absolutely no research on the subject what-so-ever, the idea bothers me, and boggles me. I wonder if it is a case of lacking drivers, or lacking code in the OS.. Still, very interesting..
It would depend on if you have the equipment and the driver support to make use of a 9.1 setup. Is this functionality backed into the OS? No... But, how many people in the world have a 9.1 surround systems?
More to the point where would you put them? Speakers have to be placed right to ensure the sound sounds "right".
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19 Jan 2010   #1230
andjayik

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

come on 9.1 for a computer?? U want that in a home theatre system in a basment with a big tv and a amp and all the other bells and whistles!!
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